And the media are complicit. They allow Conservatives to start the narrative at COVID and blame everything on international factors, but that masks the harsh reality. International events are a factor, but the media need to start connecting the dots.All goes back to 2016 and Cameron. Gave into the gammon MPs in his party and gammon members to force a vote on leaving the EU. All about saving the Tory party from splitting up. The seed was sown and here we are. You watch the TV and no one mentions it. They just think it’s something that’s only recently started.
No she didn't, she abstained.she voted against the Labour motion
He didn’t just allow him to walk away, he’s blatantly still trying to talk to him and his mic is off… he’s been picked up on the other recording he doesn’t know is there.Yes, I have of course cursed people.
But the point here is that Guru-Murthy (i) let him walk off in the first place pretty much unchallenged, (ii) was stupid enough to use that particular word when surrounded by microphones, and (iii) used a particular word which he knows he really shouldn’t be using. His apology isn’t aimed at Baker at all, it’s simply him trying to cover his arse because he knows that using that word will cause him no end of problems within his professional environment.
Above all I don’t see how a journalist calling an MP and minister a c**t is going to help the media hold the government to account with regard to its behaviour or conduct.
Classic thread…..I reckon you piss sitting down
It’s shit stuff anyway.exactly how much tofu is consumed in this country? I don't eat the stuff so someone is doing my share so thanks to that unknown solider.
A Braverman backer just said that it goes back 30 years and the way we started to use low wages and borrowing to do business.All goes back to 2016 and Cameron. Gave into the gammon MPs in his party and gammon members to force a vote on leaving the EU. All about saving the Tory party from splitting up. The seed was sown and here we are. You watch the TV and no one mentions it. They just think it’s something that’s only recently started.
Luckily people quickly forget, we just need it to be over quickly.We always look inwards and think of our country but how does this look from an international perspective?
I can only shake my head.
All goes back to 2016 and Cameron. Gave into the gammon MPs in his party and gammon members to force a vote on leaving the EU. All about saving the Tory party from splitting up. The seed was sown and here we are. You watch the TV and no one mentions it. They just think it’s something that’s only recently started.
I was thinking about Cameron the other day, and was wishing for a penny for his thoughts. His public utterances since the vote have been platitudes around the will of the people being expressed, but privately he must be horrified at what he’s unleashed. Whatever anyone’s thoughts on his politics, he’s far less prone than Johnson to self delusion and his legacy will be important to him (as it will to all politicians) which is now utterly destroyed.All this because once upon a time another useless **** that was leader of this party shit himself over the pub crank in a cromby talking bollocks about 10 million romanians, then toddled off to his country estate when it all when tits up.
In the future history books the ham faced **** cameron should be villified as a coward that set us on a path of destruction
Taking back control.
Do you think the EU vote could have been denied forever ? The gammon Mob were whipping up so many millions of people, I can imagine they would pin recent economic troubles on the EU and people would be rioting for a vote by now - to me, it was always a matter of time
Very good mate. Whatever anyones pllitical leanings this is a disaster. A GE might be the cleanest solution as even ousting Truss won’t solve the infighting.
They recent economic troubles are partially created by leaving the EU, people need to understand that. Giving everyone a tax cut with no way of paying it back and racking up government debt spooked the market. We aren’t exporting what we used to as we have made it more difficult to do so with brexit.
Hansard lists her among the Noes.No she didn't, she abstained.
No .....let them continue because people are watching and seeing what they are really like. Hopefully this will condemn them into the trash bin for a long time.
The party for who 'treating people like shit' is a political dogma.
No .....let them continue because people are watching and seeing what they are really like. Hopefully this will condemn them into the trash bin for a long time.
The party for who 'treating people like shit' is a political dogma.
I think that’s fair comment, and maybe a referendum could have lanced the boil, but that is why it was essential that Cameron got his ducks in a row and chose the right strategy, which he plainly did not.absolutely - Brexit is one of the biggest economic disasters I can think of
All I say was the pressure for Government in 2016 to implement the EU vote was big at the time, it wasn't just the Farage looneys, more and more people were demanding it
had we ignored their wishes, I can't imagine how strong the demand would be in the last couple years with economic turmoil from Covid and Russia being blamed on the EU, eventually sooner or later it would have gone to a vote.
I think that’s fair comment, and maybe a referendum could have lanced the boil, but that is why it was essential that Cameron got his ducks in a row and chose the right strategy, which he plainly did not.
The vote was always going to be close, but given people’s innate fear of the unknown Remain should have been favourites and he fucking blew it basically.
To what end? Other than secretly being a Leaver.You have to ask why he fucked it up.....Im convinced he did so deliberately .