Pep Guardiola - 2022/23

[meeesh]

What does it say then if he didnt think them two could change the game? If Foden was on the bench he would of brought him on in that situation. I actually think Grealish could of changed things as he can be direct and attract two players onto him.

Bringing on Alvarez late on was bizarre though.

The only thing bizarre about bringing Alvarez on was it was about 30 mins too late

 

[alexmcity]

What does it say then if he didnt think them two could change the game? If Foden was on the bench he would of brought him on in that situation. I actually think Grealish could of changed things as he can be direct and attract two players onto him.

Bringing on Alvarez late on was bizarre though.

You are making guesses. I also think that Pep had to make changes. In reality, we don't know whether he was wrong. Sometimes the team may be poor and lose even if the manager doesn't make mistakes.

 

[clarion]

You are making guesses. I also think that Pep had to make changes. In reality, we don't know whether he was wrong. Sometimes the team may be poor and lose even if the manager doesn't make mistakes.

We just want him to try/do something.

 

[alexmcity]

We just want him to try/do something.

He wouldn't be Pep Guardiola if he was doing what the fans wanted. Fans are fans for a reason: they are not good enough to manage (top) teams. Sometimes teams lose even if the manager takes the right decisions. And sometimes teams win in spite of their manager's decisions. Fans pretend to know (that, say, Grealish would have made a difference), but they are just guessing.

 

[clarion]

He wouldn't be Pep Guardiola if he was doing what the fans wanted. Fans are fans for a reason: they are not good enough to manage (top) teams. Sometimes teams lose even if the manager takes the right decisions. And sometimes teams win in spite of their manager's decisions. Fans pretend to know (that, say, Grealish would have made a difference), but they are just guessing.

And Pep knew no one can make difference?
I thin it is just his overthinking madness.

 

[citizen_maine]

And Pep knew no one can make difference?
I thin it is just his overthinking madness.

He over thinks every game. That's why we win so many

 

[alexmcity]

And Pep knew no one can make difference?
I thin it is just his overthinking madness

The point wasn't that Pep knew. It's impossible to know what would have happened had he...The point was that fans didn't know either.

Trust the manager, get behind him, show respect and hope he will stay. What's happening at Chelsea should be a warning. A new manager may struggle big time. Most good managers work at rivals right now.

 

[LongsightM13]

He over thinks every game. That's why we win so many

We aren’t scousers and we aren’t a cult
He is human and fallible. And if you’re honest you know he had a shocker today.
Few and far between thankfully and I wouldn’t swap him for anybody. But enough with the cult of Pep nonsense
He had a bad bad day. He normally gets a tune out of them after a half time bollocking, but if anything we were even worse as the game went on.
It happens to us all. Bad day at the office. No shame in admitting it
Like Palace at home last season, this bunch have that yellow streak game in them every year.
No excuse whatsoever for waiting til 85m for a sub though

 

[meeesh]

We aren’t scousers and we aren’t a cult
He is human and fallible. And if you’re honest you know he had a shocker today.
Few and far between thankfully and I wouldn’t swap him for anybody. But enough with the cult of Pep nonsense
He had a bad bad day. He normally gets a tune out of them after a half time bollocking, but if anything we were even worse as the game went on.
It happens to us all. Bad day at the office. No shame in admitting it
Like Palace at home last season, this bunch have that yellow streak game in them every year.
No excuse whatsoever for waiting til 85m for a sub though

Just a bastard shame we don't play for ages,to get it out of system,it'll linger today's result for a bit unfortunately

 

[LongsightM13]

Just a bastard shame we don't play for ages,to get it out of system,it'll linger today's result for a bit unfortunately

Thought the same, a game on Tuesday or Wednesday would have been ideal. We don’t usually turn in two of them in a row

 

[meeesh]

Thought the same, a game on Tuesday or Wednesday would have been ideal. We don’t usually turn in two of them in a row

Agreed,bloody 40 days or whatever it is,long time

 

[citizen_maine]

We aren’t scousers and we aren’t a cult
He is human and fallible. And if you’re honest you know he had a shocker today.
Few and far between thankfully and I wouldn’t swap him for anybody. But enough with the cult of Pep nonsense
He had a bad bad day. He normally gets a tune out of them after a half time bollocking, but if anything we were even worse as the game went on.
It happens to us all. Bad day at the office. No shame in admitting it
Like Palace at home last season, this bunch have that yellow streak game in them every year.
No excuse whatsoever for waiting til 85m for a sub though

Of course he's fallible, and I'm certainly not happy with anyone's performance today.
I'm just sick of reading that he's a stubborn egotist who over thinks every time we drop points, when these are exactly the same reasons why we win the vast majority of games we play

 

[LongsightM13]

Of course he's fallible, and I'm certainly not happy with anyone's performance today.
I'm just sick of reading that he's a stubborn egotist who over thinks every time we drop points, when these are exactly the same reasons why we win the vast majority of games we play

True mate, but he was almost as passive as our back four today

 

[alexmcity]

We aren’t scousers and we aren’t a cult
He is human and fallible. And if you’re honest you know he had a shocker today.
Few and far between thankfully and I wouldn’t swap him for anybody. But enough with the cult of Pep nonsense
He had a bad bad day. He normally gets a tune out of them after a half time bollocking, but if anything we were even worse as the game went on.
It happens to us all. Bad day at the office. No shame in admitting it
Like Palace at home last season, this bunch have that yellow streak game in them every year.
No excuse whatsoever for waiting til 85m for a sub though

I was unhappy Pep didn't make changes and came here to write just that. But we don't know that (tactical and personnel) changes would have made us better.

Imo, Pep didn't make changes (earlier) because he trusts Gundogan and KDB. Also, Foden had scored (and is scoring much more often than Grealish and Mahrez anyway) and Bernardo is too important. Gundogan has scored crucial goals and is captain for a reason, and KDB can produce something out of nothing even when he is poor. KDB was poor vs Villa in *that* game, but assisted the winner for...Gundogan. That's why, I think, Pep decided against subbing them.

In hindsight, Pep was wrong today, we couldn't be worse off with earlier subs. As you say, we were getting worse in the 2nd half, Pep failed to change that. He might have made bad mistakes indeed. Nobody can be absolutely certain about the right decisions at the time, though, especially people who have never managed at professional level. It's not about being uncritical or cultish, it's about knowing one's limitations and the nature of the beast (football, that is).

Imagine that Pep had subbed off Gundo, KDB and Foden for Alvarez, Grealish and Mahrez and we lost. He would have had a shocker then for subbing in Grealish who has 1 goal for Foden or KDB who are far more productive...Maybe there are other things, too. Pep wants Gundogan to stay...

 

[Goldust]

Great manager and all but feel sometimes he makes it harder than it needs to be.

 

[LongsightM13]

I was unhappy Pep didn't make changes and came here to write just that. But we don't know that (tactical and personnel) changes would have made us better.

Imo, Pep didn't make changes (earlier) because he trusts Gundogan and KDB. Also, Foden had scored (and is scoring much more often than Grealish and Mahrez anyway) and Bernardo is too important. Gundogan has scored crucial goals and is captain for a reason, and KDB can produce something out of nothing even when he is poor. KDB was poor vs Villa in *that* game, but assisted the winner for...Gundogan. That's why, I think, Pep decided against subbing them.

In hindsight, Pep was wrong today, we couldn't be worse off with earlier subs. As you say, we were getting worse in the 2nd half, Pep failed to change that. He might have made bad mistakes indeed. Nobody can be absolutely certain about the right decisions at the time, though, especially people who have never managed at professional level. It's not about being uncritical or cultish, it's about knowing one's limitations and the nature of the beast (football, that is).

Imagine that Pep had subbed off Gundo, KDB and Foden for Alvarez, Grealish and Mahrez and we lost. He would have had a shocker then for subbing in Grealish who has 1 goal for Foden or KDB who are far more productive...Maybe there are other things, too. Pep wants Gundogan to stay...

All fair and reasonable points tbf mate
I know he often wants the players to work it out and solve the puzzle for themselves, but there was zero sign of that happening at any stage today and fresh legs, energy and ideas can’t have hurt

 

[bluemoon32]

Sign a new contract or dont but stop the constant fucking about over it.

 

[franksinatra]

Put out arguably our best side today, although you could argue over Akanji and Dias, and a few of the players never showed up. On them for me.

 

[Mancityus]

ThInk the biggest mistake that has been made was to let Jesus leave.
Yes Jesus wanted out but that was because he was not getting enough time, Pep was splitting time between him and Sterling, Grealish, Mahrez - all clearly much below the level Jesus is and so can understand him wanting out. If Pep had given him more time he would have remained.

 

[johnbmcr]

we were rubbish today poor selection awful tactics what's the point of having 5 substitutes? if pep is too stubborn in his ways to make changes 0/10