The Conservative Party

Scrap HS2?
Don't spend billions developing a Covid app which is useless.
Don't send £16bn abroad and give in to Green pressure to look good among other nations.
Don't waste billions on inflated PPE prices from dodgy mates.
Place higher taxes on energy companies who are extorting a crisis?

Love how Jeremy **** gaslights the public into thinking this is our fault and we must pay extra for the privilege. I went to school in the 90s/ 00s and back then there was heavy emphasis on renewable energy in Geography lessons. Govt have done FA about the energy crisis and are making us pay. Fuck the tories.
 
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Of course, there is no ‘fiscal black hole’ today is just the latest way to move even more wealth from the have nots to the have loads. Ideology once again trumping what’s best for the country. Shrinking the economy at the same time as the economy is shrinking would be thought madness even if you’d never tried it before…..
We have ‘taken back control’ and given it to the media and the markets and we have politicians in charge who’ll just do as they’re told. I’d imagine ‘taking the medicine today’ will end up having a profound effect on the autumn statement of 2024, two months before the next election. Tax cuts for all, with most of us still earning far less relatively than we did in 2010 but enough of the confused populace will likely fall for it, once again.

I just wish the Labour Party would protect their class the way the Tories unashamedly protect theirs.
 
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One of the things to remember today, as a lot of people bring up "Austerity 2.0" is that we never left Austerity 1. Public spending never returned to the levels it was pre-2010, let alone catch up to where it should be by now.
 
bluethrunthru said:
then why not use the worf?
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Sometimes it's best just to let everyone with a brain draw the right conclusion without saying the word that brings the howler monkeys into the debate.

If he says Brexit then people stop talking about what he's saying and just go mad about the fact the governor of the BOE something bad about brexit.
 
domalino said:
One of the things to remember today, as a lot of people bring up "Austerity 2.0" is that we never left Austerity 1. Public spending never returned to the levels it was pre-2010, let alone catch up to where it should be by now.
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They’ve never really got growth going since the Conservatives came to power. Gdp has been dropping since 2014, they can’t be trusted to kickstart things when the mill stone of brexit is crippling the country.
 
Gabriel said:
It’s certainly a cynical ploy but it would mean that whoever took over in 2024-25 would not be starting with a clean slate and would be spending the first 2-3 years still cleaning up the Conservative’s mess. Could be wrong, of course, but we’ll find out more later today.
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I think that's a certainty regardless of what they do.
I don't see any fix that doesn't involve tax rises and slow progress on the actual fixing, and that will just help the Conservatives the next time around. I think Labour in power need to compile the accurate figures on spending and cuts, and every report that's been suppressed, and bang on about them and how much lying was being done. Just finding a way to make it register is the tough bit.
 
The arguments on here around austerity are a little hypocritical and illogical.

This is a genuine question - if we do not impose austerity and instead increase spending then what will happen to the markets and the £? We could fill the black hole with taxes but why would the markets react positively to increases in tax that would inevitably fall on the markets?

The pain coming is unfortunately inevitable because it's the long price we must all pay for COVID and not even a Labour government would be able to escape it.
 
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