24 Hours In Police Custody

But, like I’ve just responded to Mr Stoke, you can’t drive off and hunt them down. That isn’t necessary force and will see you convicted.

If it’s in your house with a baseball bat, you wouldn’t do time.
Yep, that’s what security cameras are for. You have to be discreet when doing your hunting down. :-)
 
The police won't protect you in any burglary......

Is it not better to take steps to deter criminals from entering your property?

Get a dog, Install lights and cameras etc rather than holed up like a mid level dealer on a sink estate?

I once had a baseball bat for that purpose (I didn't buy it, found it in a park on a long walk during lockdown, and smuggled back in coat), because I had a sense that lockdown might encourage crime.

Never actually got as far as keeping in my room though, it stayed in communal kitchen.
 
Is it not better to take steps to deter criminals from entering your property?

Get a dog, Install lights and cameras etc rather than holed up like a mid level dealer on a sink estate?
When I got targeted I had a cat . it was feral but wouldnt have done owt. The guy kicking my door down did have his dog with him...a staffy I think. Scrotes don't give two fucks about lights, cameras or dogs sometimes.

I'm not a dealer anymore........and I've moved out of The Moss.
 
When I got targeted I had a cat . it was feral but wouldnt have done owt. The guy kicking my door down did have his dog with him...a staffy I think. Scrotes don't give two fucks about lights, cameras or dogs sometimes.

I'm not a dealer anymore........and I've moved out of The Moss.

Not the average thief presumably. Opportunistic thieves avoid stealing from properties that are more difficult.

My argument doesn't apply to everyone particularly rough areas.
 
Is this you just saying that “it’s just an instant emotional reaction to say that they would do this”?
No, it’s me saying that if my cameras caught someone on any of my properties here or in the U.K. I’d make phone calls to find out who they were, which wouldn’t take long and I would have someone go and have a quiet word and inform them not to do it again.
 
I once had a baseball bat for that purpose (I didn't buy it, found it in a park on a long walk during lockdown, and smuggled back in coat), because I had a sense that lockdown might encourage crime.

Never actually got as far as keeping in my room though, it stayed in communal kitchen.
Which open prison you in mate?
 
It’s interesting how popular vigilantism is on this thread.

How long before we bin off the police and have a Justice Force that just go round dishing out instance justice following a hearing of a kangaroo court on social media?

Its fear mate, driven by a media that thrive off crime stories for clicks and sales. The more horrific the better, crime sells as Netflix has discovered.

I don't think people want or support vigilante mobs they just want to feel safer and rightly or wrongly they feel the present system doesn't do that effectively enough. The two scrotes in this programme are prolific career criminals with long criminal records already. The one who was supposedly in a critical condition discharged himself from hospital and was back out robbing straight away. How do we break that cycle with these people who are just a constant nuisance to society and don't want to work for a living?

The police say, "Leave it to us" but people have lost all faith in their ability to do that job. I think there had been a spate of burglaries in that area and that was probably in the householders mind when he saw them trying to break into his property. Driven by the "They're not getting away with it this time!" mindset he took the actions he did, sadly to his and his families cost.
 
I don't think people want or support vigilante mobs they just want to feel safer and rightly or wrongly they feel the present system doesn't do that effectively enough. The two scrotes in this programme are prolific career criminals with long criminal records already. The one who was supposedly in a critical condition discharged himself from hospital and was back out robbing straight away. How do we break that cycle with these people who are just a constant nuisance to society and don't want to work for a living?

The police say, "Leave it to us" but people have lost all faith in their ability to do that job. I think there had been a spate of burglaries in that area and that was probably in the householders mind when he saw them trying to break into his property. Driven by the "They're not getting away with it this time!" mindset he took the actions he did, sadly to his and his families cost.
Mow the cunts down?

I'M JOKING ffs
 
Which can be an element of paranoia.
I don’t think it’s paranoia, it’s clear that the ONS the Home Office and opposition parties know there is a serious issue with the number of more serious crimes against individuals being committed and the rates of conviction.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...s-at-20-year-high-as-charge-rate-hits-new-low

The police and courts are meant to uphold the law but when they are failing to do so, is it any surprise that people take more extreme measures.
 
A 15-year-old boy has been jailed for four years and nine months, after admitting the shocking killing of 53-year-old Mohammed Islam in Romiley, Stockport.

4 years .......half will be served

What a joke
 
Its fear mate, driven by a media that thrive off crime stories for clicks and sales. The more horrific the better, crime sells as Netflix has discovered.

I don't think people want or support vigilante mobs they just want to feel safer and rightly or wrongly they feel the present system doesn't do that effectively enough. The two scrotes in this programme are prolific career criminals with long criminal records already. The one who was supposedly in a critical condition discharged himself from hospital and was back out robbing straight away. How do we break that cycle with these people who are just a constant nuisance to society and don't want to work for a living?

The police say, "Leave it to us" but people have lost all faith in their ability to do that job. I think there had been a spate of burglaries in that area and that was probably in the householders mind when he saw them trying to break into his property. Driven by the "They're not getting away with it this time!" mindset he took the actions he did, sadly to his and his families cost.
You’re probably right. I’ve not been burgled since university, where I lost about 3,000 CDs. I know that feeling of someone intruding on your home and it’s that that felt worse to me than losing my childhood music collection. No insurance either as I couldn’t afford it at the time.

The problem of career criminals isn’t an easy one to solve as every service has been cut to the bone, whilst people with limited intelligence have probably never been so limited in how they can make decent money. Therefore crime pays and the deterrent of a few years in prison doesn’t bother them much.

How do we solve it? Sentences have never been harsher and increasing tariffs doesn’t seem to work, even if we had enough prison cells to house the extra ones.

What I do know is that continued austerity mustn’t be the answer.
 
You’re probably right. I’ve not been burgled since university, where I lost about 3,000 CDs. I know that feeling of someone intruding on your home and it’s that that felt worse to me than losing my childhood music collection. No insurance either as I couldn’t afford it at the time.

The problem of career criminals isn’t an easy one to solve as every service has been cut to the bone, whilst people with limited intelligence have probably never been so limited in how they can make decent money. Therefore crime pays and the deterrent of a few years in prison doesn’t bother them much.

How do we solve it? Sentences have never been harsher and increasing tariffs doesn’t seem to work, even if we had enough prison cells to house the extra ones.

What I do know is that continued austerity mustn’t be the answer.
There is no answer..............crime will never go away.

It's every man/woman for himself now.

Honestly .....dig a moat. Gun towers.

Be more USA.
 

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