Liverpool fans throwing missiles from South Stand Level 3

[ken_barnes]

Can't disagree that other places had it worse in that respect but you're forgetting hillsborough in this. The affect it had on the city and people, only to be falsely blamed and accused for it by the government, media, and establishment and then be taunted about it by the entire country seems to have been overlooked by you here.

If pissed up ticketless fans hadn't turned up, causing a crush outside the ground, that tragedy wouldn't of happend -FACT...
No one was singing about Hillsborough last night - FACT...
The feed the scousers song, isn't aimed only at you, it's changed around the country. Depending on who plays who. Ie feed the Welsh, when someone plays a Welsh team - FACT...
So stop feeling so victimised !!!

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Probably not, but we should be better than that.

They aren't, so why should we.

I agree that we have, like most clubs, a minority of idiots. But their fans on social media are saying that the 15-year-old injured by a missile that was specifically designed to hurt someone, somehow deserved it.

They're scum. What else would you call them? A little misguided? High-spirited?

 

[VOOMER]

In response to the last paragraph of a post by Gorton-tubster in the locked email thread, the treatment of Liverpool and its people over the years by thatcher, tory governments, police, press, the establishment etc. over hillsborough, and subsequently the general population of this country who have peddled the same old lies, has undoubtedly led to a lot of heartache, hatred and bitterness.

I honestly think a big part of why Liverpool are disliked by large parts of the country is because Liverpool supporters don't want anything to with them and don't want to be like them, as a result of this treatment. The shit Liverpool have taken over the years about Hillsborough and poverty inevitably creates a rift and 'scouse not english' becomes the sentiment. People up and down the country then don't like it and the resentment becomes mutual.

The poor girl getting hit by something last night absolutely shouldn't have happened and was disgraceful. How anyone can think it's acceptable to indiscrimately throw anything into a crowd full of people is beyond me. I hope whoever did it is caught and punished accordingly.

At the same time, the ramping up of the taunting of people over death and poverty is also inexcusable and is obviously designed to hurt and inflame things.

All this 'what about...' shite is pathetic and gets you nowhere. It's partly why I said yesterday that this one-sided view that Liverpool are scum and City are squeaky clean so it's ok to abuse the scousers as much as you like, is wrong, and actually perpetuates more of the bitterness and unsavoury incidents between the clubs. Liverpool, as do any club, including city, have supporters who will cross the line. City have supporters who are happy to ramp things up with the death taunts. Unfortunately, incidents like last night then become horribly inevitable if it's not reigned in.

You will probably all disgaree but the joint statement seems sensible to me. What needs to happen is that both Liverpool and City accept responsibility for their failings. No ifs or buts. Maybe then things might improve.

I will await the usual vermin, ****, rat, fuck off shouts. But if that's the approach you want to take, maybe you're part of the problem.

Your posts could have been shortened to "it's not our fault, we are always being victimised".

 

[Bluemoonadam]

In response to the last paragraph of a post by Gorton-tubster in the locked email thread, the treatment of Liverpool and its people over the years by thatcher, tory governments, police, press, the establishment etc. over hillsborough, and subsequently the general population of this country who have peddled the same old lies, has undoubtedly led to a lot of heartache, hatred and bitterness.

I honestly think a big part of why Liverpool are disliked by large parts of the country is because Liverpool supporters don't want anything to with them and don't want to be like them, as a result of this treatment. The shit Liverpool have taken over the years about Hillsborough and poverty inevitably creates a rift and 'scouse not english' becomes the sentiment. People up and down the country then don't like it and the resentment becomes mutual.

The poor girl getting hit by something last night absolutely shouldn't have happened and was disgraceful. How anyone can think it's acceptable to indiscrimately throw anything into a crowd full of people is beyond me. I hope whoever did it is caught and punished accordingly.

At the same time, the ramping up of the taunting of people over death and poverty is also inexcusable and is obviously designed to hurt and inflame things.

All this 'what about...' shite is pathetic and gets you nowhere. It's partly why I said yesterday that this one-sided view that Liverpool are scum and City are squeaky clean so it's ok to abuse the scousers as much as you like, is wrong, and actually perpetuates more of the bitterness and unsavoury incidents between the clubs. Liverpool, as do any club, including city, have supporters who will cross the line. City have supporters who are happy to ramp things up with the death taunts. Unfortunately, incidents like last night then become horribly inevitable if it's not reigned in.

You will probably all disgaree but the joint statement seems sensible to me. What needs to happen is that both Liverpool and City accept responsibility for their failings. No ifs or buts. Maybe then things might improve.

I will await the usual vermin, ****, rat, fuck off shouts. But if that's the approach you want to take, maybe you're part of the problem.

What do we have to accept responsibility for? Attacking a team coach, coin throwing bottle throwing? The attacks and physical ones have come more from Liverpool fans.

 

[cleavers]

they hate us because we are taking away titles that they think they have a divine right to

Nail on the head.

 

[its grim up north]

Hypocrisy? Judging by what's written on here, City supporters seem to be up there with anyone when it comes to that.

When it comes to the death shouts, of course we have supporters that have done that. Especially in years gone by. But barring a few idiots on isolated occasions, its largely been consigned to history. A bit like of lot of the behaviour seen around football from fans of all clubs in years gone by. Maine Road was not a nice place to visit as an away supporter in the 80s so don't pretent you're squeaky clean or you might sound a little hypocritical.

Liverpool are getting these shouts regularly at the moment, by city more than anyone. You can't taunt people about Hillsborough and not expect to receive a reaction. Although that's exactly what people are looking for isn't it?

How long ago did Queen Elizabeth 2 die?

 

[Fred_Quimby]

In response to the last paragraph of a post by Gorton-tubster in the locked email thread, the treatment of Liverpool and its people over the years by thatcher, tory governments, police, press, the establishment etc. over hillsborough, and subsequently the general population of this country who have peddled the same old lies, has undoubtedly led to a lot of heartache, hatred and bitterness.

I honestly think a big part of why Liverpool are disliked by large parts of the country is because Liverpool supporters don't want anything to with them and don't want to be like them, as a result of this treatment. The shit Liverpool have taken over the years about Hillsborough and poverty inevitably creates a rift and 'scouse not english' becomes the sentiment. People up and down the country then don't like it and the resentment becomes mutual.

The poor girl getting hit by something last night absolutely shouldn't have happened and was disgraceful. How anyone can think it's acceptable to indiscrimately throw anything into a crowd full of people is beyond me. I hope whoever did it is caught and punished accordingly.

At the same time, the ramping up of the taunting of people over death and poverty is also inexcusable and is obviously designed to hurt and inflame things.

All this 'what about...' shite is pathetic and gets you nowhere. It's partly why I said yesterday that this one-sided view that Liverpool are scum and City are squeaky clean so it's ok to abuse the scousers as much as you like, is wrong, and actually perpetuates more of the bitterness and unsavoury incidents between the clubs. Liverpool, as do any club, including city, have supporters who will cross the line. City have supporters who are happy to ramp things up with the death taunts. Unfortunately, incidents like last night then become horribly inevitable if it's not reigned in.

You will probably all disgaree but the joint statement seems sensible to me. What needs to happen is that both Liverpool and City accept responsibility for their failings. No ifs or buts. Maybe then things might improve.

I will await the usual vermin, ****, rat, fuck off shouts. But if that's the approach you want to take, maybe you're part of the problem.

I will take you up on this epistle. No matter how hard done to you may think you have been done to in the past it is no, repeat no, excuse for the actions of many of Liverpool fans. It is not held as an excuse in any court in the land. Liverpool has had a huge wedge of cash thrown at it over the last 10 years. There is no excuse for having missiles and other awful material thrown at you. I have been to many Wembley finals and the dippers final is the only one where this has happened. The poor 10 year old girl sat next to me was in floods of tears trying to get the awful, disgusting mess out of her blonde hair. We sat with hood up trying to protect ourselves. Is this excusable because they have been ‘badly’ treated in the past? No it’s not. Nor is the awful behaviour of their fans no matter where they travel. They act like this because nobody does anything about it. Do you think nothing would be done if it was any other team ?? No, neither do I. This is why they are disliked. Just because you were brought up ‘rough’ doesn’t mean to say you have to act like it. Actions are a personal responsibility and it is beholden on the individual to act responsibly.

 

[VOOMER]

Hypocrisy? Judging by what's written on here, City supporters seem to be up there with anyone when it comes to that.

When it comes to the death shouts, of course we have supporters that have done that. Especially in years gone by. But barring a few idiots on isolated occasions, its largely been consigned to history. A bit like of lot of the behaviour seen around football from fans of all clubs in years gone by. Maine Road was not a nice place to visit as an away supporter in the 80s so don't pretent you're squeaky clean or you might sound a little hypocritical.

Liverpool are getting these shouts regularly at the moment, by city more than anyone. You can't taunt people about Hillsborough and not expect to receive a reaction. Although that's exactly what people are looking for isn't it?

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[Eric Hitchmough]

Not even got the energy to read @A.J scouser’s new messages. We’ve witnessed more injuries, more violence, and yet I’m sure he’ll find a way to blame it on either City, society, the government, VAR, Chelsea or the Queen.

I’m a nice guy and usually quite patient but seriously, just do one. Today’s not the day.

 

[jamielowndes]

Liverpool are getting these shouts regularly at the moment, by city more than anyone. You can't taunt people about Hillsborough and not expect to receive a reaction. Although that's exactly what people are looking for isn't it?

I will say this until I'm blue in the face.

If youre throwing missiles at people because they're shouting classless things at you, you stop being the good guy.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I will say this until I'm blue in the face.

If youre throwing missiles at people because they're shouting classless things at you, you stop being the good guy.

Stop? When did they start?

 

[aguero93:20]

If we had 6,000 Darwin Nunez's on the top tier we could all watch the game safe in the knowledge nothing at all would hit us from above.

Shouldn't ridicule the blind.

 

[BAB.DAB]

Hypocrisy? Judging by what's written on here, City supporters seem to be up there with anyone when it comes to that.

When it comes to the death shouts, of course we have supporters that have done that. Especially in years gone by. But barring a few idiots on isolated occasions, its largely been consigned to history. A bit like of lot of the behaviour seen around football from fans of all clubs in years gone by. Maine Road was not a nice place to visit as an away supporter in the 80s so don't pretent you're squeaky clean or you might sound a little hypocritical.

Liverpool are getting these shouts regularly at the moment, by city more than anyone. You can't taunt people about Hillsborough and not expect to receive a reaction. Although that's exactly what people are looking for isn't it?

City supporters bus was bricked after the game

 

[Gray]

Hypocrisy? Judging by what's written on here, City supporters seem to be up there with anyone when it comes to that.

When it comes to the death shouts, of course we have supporters that have done that. Especially in years gone by. But barring a few idiots on isolated occasions, its largely been consigned to history. A bit like of lot of the behaviour seen around football from fans of all clubs in years gone by. Maine Road was not a nice place to visit as an away supporter in the 80s so don't pretent you're squeaky clean or you might sound a little hypocritical.

Liverpool are getting these shouts regularly at the moment, by city more than anyone. You can't taunt people about Hillsborough and not expect to receive a reaction. Although that's exactly what people are looking for isn't it?

The song has nothing to do with Hillsborough, it is all about the fact that Liverpool fans are never to blame for anything. If you want to know it is pure sarcasm, “sticks and stones” hurt (ask that 15 year old girl) but “words will never hurt me”. You lot on Merseyside should grow some balls.

 

[manimanc]

According to M.E.N a disabled Liverpool fan was racially abused.

Nearly covered all bases there, just need to crowbar LGBTQ into the story then bobs yer uncle.

Always a comeback with these cunts.

 

[Bluemoonadam]

debated about whether to respond to this or not.

the joint statement, in my eyes, is a kick in the teeth to the city fans who were physically assaulted by feral fans who have no care or thought for other human beings. there were families in that crowd with young children just trying to enjoy a game of football. a young girl has walked away from that game with a permanent reminder that she’ll carry for life. the statement should’ve come from city alone condemning the behaviour - LFC are always quick to condemn chants and songs aimed at them. city here have a duty of care to their supporters and should have the right safety protocols in place to prevent these incidents from occurring. personally i would’ve like a statement from the club condemning the behaviour and sending well wishes to the injured fan.

i’ve not seen anything on here to suggest city fans are ‘squeaky clean’ every club has their fair share of balloons but you cannot deny the incidents that get called out by LFC are always ‘this fan said this and this fan said that’ but whenever it’s a LFC fan involved there’s always reports of actual physical violence.

I don’t condone any chants about hillsborough or poverty - but grown men resorting to violence and assaulting children is over the line. And you wonder why rival fans despise you - take a look in the mirror, this is what your fans are like.

I don't believe the murderers chant is aimed at Hillsborough.

 

[MrCheeseGrater]

Someone's gonna get killed at one of these soon. Far too toxic. Also the Club need to never again put Liverpool away fans in the third tier for cup matches, give them the normal allocation with an even bigger boundary. Get special authorization from the FA to give them less tickets if we need. Just please don't give the feral cunts 6k tickets above blues.

 

[jrb]

Can any of you answer this question?

During the recent title parades in Manchester city centre, has any City fan set fire to Manchester Town Hall during the celebrations?

Liverpool fans can’t even celebrate their first PL title in 30 years during lockdown without setting fire to the Liver Building.



Let alone firing fireworks at each other, fighting each other, attacking the Police and Emergency Services, and trashing their own city/the Liverpool Waterfront.

Know doubt AJ will blame that behaviour on years of chants ridiculing Liverpool and Liverpudlians, Maggie Thatcher, the ConservatIves and economic deprivation caused by successive Conservative and ‘Labour’ Governments.

What AJ won’t tell you is that Liverpool and Merseyside received over £1,000,000,000 in Objective 1 funding from the EU. That EU Objective 1 funding was topped up with similar funding from successive Conservative and Labour Governments.

What your average Scouse Politician and Councillor won’t tell you is that they pissed the money up the wall. Bar some success that money disappeared over the years. I wonder where it went in Liverpool?

Liverpool Council is now under special Government measures. Leaders from other Cities, including Howard Bernstein, who is a big City fan, have been drafted into run Liverpool City Council. The year is 2022.

 

[Ric]

They aren't, so why should we.

I agree that we have, like most clubs, a minority of idiots. But their fans on social media are saying that the 15-year-old injured by a missile that was specifically designed to hurt someone, somehow deserved it.

They're scum. What else would you call them? A little misguided? High-spirited?

The person who threw the missile, and those justifying it, are indeed scum. It's reprehensible. They don't represent their entire fanbase though, in the same way that those who sang that song at Anfield don't represent City fans.

 

[halfcenturyup]

Hypocrisy? Judging by what's written on here, City supporters seem to be up there with anyone when it comes to that.

When it comes to the death shouts, of course we have supporters that have done that. Especially in years gone by. But barring a few idiots on isolated occasions, its largely been consigned to history. A bit like of lot of the behaviour seen around football from fans of all clubs in years gone by. Maine Road was not a nice place to visit as an away supporter in the 80s so don't pretent you're squeaky clean or you might sound a little hypocritical.

Liverpool are getting these shouts regularly at the moment, by city more than anyone. You can't taunt people about Hillsborough and not expect to receive a reaction. Although that's exactly what people are looking for isn't it?

No, you see. You are doing it again. I never said all City fans are squeaky clean, now or in the past. That would be a ridiculous assertion.

Let's just take the "offences" currently in use. The Steaua Bucharest banner? Poor taste? Celebrating death? Harold Shipman chant? Poor taste? Celebrating death? From our side, The Sun Was Right? I can accept this is a little over the edge and I wouldn't have a problem if the club banned that, and afterwards, people who sung it. Murderers? Nothing to do with Hillsborough. It's a Heysel reference, presumably because manslaughterers doesn't scan. Only offensive because you choose it to be. Feed the Scousers/Dippers? Do me a favour. If the best you can do is "poverty- shaming" from City fans, you are on weak ground. Anyway, bottom line. Everton and City don't go running to daddy when these things happen to us. You guys take such offence you want a national bloody enquiry every week (exaggeration intentional for literary impact). It's almost as if you consider yourselves always to be the victims. Which brings us to the last chant. Which is again not a Hillsborough reference. It references Liverpool fans' ability to turn any event/chant/incident into an attack on Liverpool. That is another topic which needs a longer post, so maybe, if you want to engage on that, we can do it tomorrow. It's bedtime here.