VAR thread 2022/23

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Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
Why don’t they list them?
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ancoats said:
VAR offsides should be changed or a rule change that allows for it not being 100% correct because of technology and camera angles not being in line, why not use something like the old system of daylight between players and make it simple
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There has never been an official “daylight” rule. What they are using in England this season is along those lines though. The two lines are thicker than previously and when there is any overlap, it’s on side, even when the attackers line is further forward. Arsene Wenger has been talking about a daylight rule. I think it was or is been trialled in Italy’s Under 18 league. Not that it will cause any less controversy. It’ll just move the discussion a few inches further up the pitch.
 
Hoghead said:
I wonder if they'll show a corrected table?
www.bbc.co.uk

Premier League: VAR has made six incorrect interventions this season

Premier League video assistant referees (VAR) have made six incorrect interventions this season.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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Is that per week?

Actually, they are saying there were 54 incidents that should have been reviewed by VAR. 6 came to the wrong conclusion and they missed 6 of them. That's almost a one in four failure rate. It's good these guys aren't building bridges.
 
ancoats said:
if the officials are still getting it wrong under the clear and obvious VAR system, then turn it off
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I'm not so sure it's human error, though. Way way too many blatantly incorrect decisions are being made by officials that it's difficult to put them all down to incompetence. Maybe the game is corrupt and certain referees have received 'sweeteners'? Who knows? But when you are watching an incident on the screen and you can see for yourself that a decision is incorrect, why can't the referee? The one man whose job it is to get it right?

We all know certain teams are being favoured, it's been like that for the better part of 40 years now. But it's the 21st century now and technology has brought us all into the digital age: cameras, transmitters, videos, you name it. We can see an incident from so many different angles, computers can capture even the minutest of details, the imagery is second to none - but if the ref says it didn't happen then it didn't happen. Absurd.

I can think of no other billion dollar industry that relies on the opinion of one man, and that one man is accountable to absolutely no one: shareholders, boardroom members, senior staff members etc. This one man is permitted to say and do whatever he wants and will never be held accountable for things when they go wrong.
 
After spending the last few years adjusting to VAR, it is scary how dramatic the change to margins are when VAR is suddenly removed. The officials were extremely confused also, the linesmen were delaying flags expecting VAR to correct their decisions. We suffered most from this but as we won, I expect it will go under the radar. I can't work out if the ref did well or not, he didn't give anything either way. Maybe he forgot his whistle? Rodri and Fabinho may have been both sent off with VAR?
 
blueinsa said:
There has been far more mistakes than that.
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These are specifically the six incidents that an independent panel judged to be incorrect VAR interventions. It doesn’t include mistakes a referee may have made outside of VAR jurisdiction. Or cases where the VAR incorrectly didn’t get involved in correcting a wrong refereeing decision.
 
So without VAR - Cresswell would have taken a ball smashed into his face and Arsenal would have been awarded a penalty . Totally fine and normal.
 
OK not Var but, like Var, it is everything wrong with modern football. Today the linesmans coms failed. He has one job to do, raise his silly little flag but no, we have to have a 10 minute break whilst someone tries to fix his radio. Players stood in the rain and fans bored whilst we wait. What dies he need comms for ? He has a fucking flag.
The game is fucked.
 
Not a “VAR is bent” post, but more a “we need to rethink offside in the context of VAR” post.

That offside call against Brighton to rule out their third against Arsenal is an example of why offside needs to be reformed in the era of VAR review.

His back stud was “off” as he was running away from the goal line.

I am not sure any football fan (apart from Arse supporters) would agree that any advantage was being gained there or that ruling out goals in that way improves football.
 
Blue Mist said:
OK not Var but, like Var, it is everything wrong with modern football. Today the linesmans coms failed. He has one job to do, raise his silly little flag but no, we have to have a 10 minute break whilst someone tries to fix his radio. Players stood in the rain and fans bored whilst we wait. What dies he need comms for ? He has a fucking flag.
The game is fucked.
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One game out of hundreds that there was a slight technical delay - so this obviously means the ‘game is fucked’
 
Blue Mist said:
OK not Var but, like Var, it is everything wrong with modern football. Today the linesmans coms failed. He has one job to do, raise his silly little flag but no, we have to have a 10 minute break whilst someone tries to fix his radio. Players stood in the rain and fans bored whilst we wait. What dies he need comms for ? He has a fucking flag.
The game is fucked.
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It felt like it took forever, sitting there in the cold but I’ve read it was less than six minutes. Still annoying. I suspect if they’d somehow known from the outset it was going to take that long, they’d have probably sacked it off and carried on without it. But these things normally take less than a minute, so I suppose once the guy has started fiddling around, you’ve got to stick with it until he’s done. He seemed quite pleased with his work, waving away to the crowd afterwards.
 
Blue Mist said:
OK not Var but, like Var, it is everything wrong with modern football. Today the linesmans coms failed. He has one job to do, raise his silly little flag but no, we have to have a 10 minute break whilst someone tries to fix his radio. Players stood in the rain and fans bored whilst we wait. What dies he need comms for ? He has a fucking flag.
The game is fucked.
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Ah, but comms is available and refs need to be at the cutting edge of technology. I just wonder why during the seemingly interminable recess we didn't get a single word on the screen at to what was happening. At one point I thought the flunky was looking for the lino's tits. I sit diammetrically opposite but in CBL3 so it was a long way away and an easy mistake to make. Wasn't Bolton's finest, Mason, in the VAR shed? Might explain every detail.
 
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