Etihad Atmosphere - 2022/23

Sky Blue said:
Everton home. 5-0 when 10k fans were allowed in. Luckily I was there.
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Have to take your word for that. Cheers. Normally things ring a bell when they’re mentioned but no recollection of that whatsoever. Although if it was in the first half, was still probably negotiating the security to get in.
 
I think it’s something that definelty needs addressing and the powers that be could do more to help. For example some things I think are:


  • Season ticket holders only in south stand / corner next to the away fans. I’m in 110 and there’s far too many tourists there for it to be a good singing section
  • Move away fans to the corner (east stand or Colin bell stand ) allowing full south stand for city ends and a standing section to the other side of the away end
  • Shoot 2nd half towards the south stand! Half of the family stand is empty by the 85th minute
  • Have tourists/day trippers in one area instead of all over the ground which disrupts any chance of generating atmosphere
  • Scrap family stand or move to 3rd tier of Colin bell stand as only one end of the ground tends to be singing
  • Have north stand (family stand) as a standing singing section as well so there are 2 sides of the ground generating an atmosphere
  • Pre match ‘entertainment’ outside the ground is unnecessary
  • Allow flags back in the ground to hang instead of fake electronic ones
  • Cheaper tickets for local fans (10-20% off for greater Manchester residents)
 
The Boys In Blue said:
I think it’s something that definelty needs addressing and the powers that be could do more to help. For example some things I think are:


  • Season ticket holders only in south stand / corner next to the away fans. I’m in 110 and there’s far too many tourists there for it to be a good singing section
  • Move away fans to the corner (east stand or Colin bell stand ) allowing full south stand for city ends and a standing section to the other side of the away end
  • Shoot 2nd half towards the south stand! Half of the family stand is empty by the 85th minute
  • Have tourists/day trippers in one area instead of all over the ground which disrupts any chance of generating atmosphere
  • Scrap family stand or move to 3rd tier of Colin bell stand as only one end of the ground tends to be singing
  • Have north stand (family stand) as a standing singing section as well so there are 2 sides of the ground generating an atmosphere
  • Pre match ‘entertainment’ outside the ground is unnecessary
  • Allow flags back in the ground to hang instead of fake electronic ones
  • Cheaper tickets for local fans (10-20% off for greater Manchester residents)
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I know your intentions are good mate and I applaud it, but a large portion of that is impossible to implement.
 
The Boys In Blue said:
I think it’s something that definelty needs addressing and the powers that be could do more to help. For example some things I think are:


  • Season ticket holders only in south stand / corner next to the away fans. I’m in 110 and there’s far too many tourists there for it to be a good singing section
  • Move away fans to the corner (east stand or Colin bell stand ) allowing full south stand for city ends and a standing section to the other side of the away end
  • Shoot 2nd half towards the south stand! Half of the family stand is empty by the 85th minute
  • Have tourists/day trippers in one area instead of all over the ground which disrupts any chance of generating atmosphere
  • Scrap family stand or move to 3rd tier of Colin bell stand as only one end of the ground tends to be singing
  • Have north stand (family stand) as a standing singing section as well so there are 2 sides of the ground generating an atmosphere
  • Pre match ‘entertainment’ outside the ground is unnecessary
  • Allow flags back in the ground to hang instead of fake electronic ones
  • Cheaper tickets for local fans (10-20% off for greater Manchester residents)
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Some good ideas there but most of them are never going to happen/materialise.
It always makes me scratch my head when we attack towards the family stand in the second half. Surely you want to be attacking the most vocal part of the ground in the second half. There's still quite a few that have left there by the 85th minute mind.
 
Edghill OG said:
Some good ideas there but most of them are never going to happen/materialise.
It always makes me scratch my head when we attack towards the family stand in the second half. Surely you want to be attacking the most vocal part of the ground in the second half. There's still quite a few that have left there by the 85th minute mind.
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Yeah I know it would be near impossible for all to be done but if i had to chose more realistic ones it would be have south stand and Kippax corner (especially lower) as season ticket holders only. I went to a Roma match the other year and as a tourist you cannot buy a ticket in their singing end. I think moving the away fans to the corner is doable to have the full south stand as city but think it’s important to have away fans in view on the lower tier as our atmosphere seems to go worse when away fans are only on the upper tiers.
 
The Boys In Blue said:
Yeah I know it would be near impossible for all to be done but if i had to chose more realistic ones it would be have south stand and Kippax corner (especially lower) as season ticket holders only. I went to a Roma match the other year and as a tourist you cannot buy a ticket in their singing end. I think moving the away fans to the corner is doable to have the full south stand as city but think it’s important to have away fans in view on the lower tier as our atmosphere seems to go worse when away fans are only on the upper tiers.
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That’s because we've always had away fans in-between our 2 singing sections and singing fans. If you look at other PL grounds most have their home ends and singing sections at the opposite end of the ground from the away end and away fans.(Liverpool, United, Spurs, Chelsea, Arsenal, Leeds, Newcastle, Villa, Everton, etc. It will take years to end our dependency on being close to the away fans to create an atmosphere, if and when the North stand becomes our home end and main singing section. I still think we’ll have singers near the away fans. What’s critical is that we do get singers moving to the expanded North stand, because if we don’t it will end up like the current NS, CBS and ES, quiet.
 
jrb said:
That’s because we've always had away fans in-between our 2 singing sections and singing fans. If you look at other PL grounds most have their home ends and singing sections at the opposite end of the ground from the away end and away fans.(Liverpool, United, Spurs, Chelsea, Arsenal, Leeds, Newcastle, Villa, Everton, etc. It will take years to end our dependency on being close to the away fans to create an atmosphere, if and when the North stand becomes our home end and main singing section. I still think we’ll have singers near the away fans. What’s critical is that we do get singers moving to the expanded North stand, because if we don’t it will end up like the current NS, CBS and ES, quiet.
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Well Leeds singing/rowdy stand is right next to the away fans, but a stand at the end of the ground with the away fans in the corner next to it, that has the best of both really.

Not that I think this is necessarily part of the problem given half the teams listed above tend to have a pretty poor atmosphere 90% of the time.
 
swintonjamie said:
Well Leeds singing/rowdy stand is right next to the away fans, but a stand at the end of the ground with the away fans in the corner next to it, that has the best of both really.

Not that I think this is necessarily part of the problem given half the teams listed above tend to have a pretty poor atmosphere 90% of the time.
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Leeds United‘s home end and main singing section is the North stand, which is at the other end of the ground. The South stand next to the away fans is also noisy. The away fans used to be in the SE blocks.

City need to do this with the away fans. Give them 109, 110, 111, the current SSL1 away end, 114, and if necessary 115. Shove them in the ES/SS/L1 corner.

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jrb said:
Leeds United‘s home and main singing is the North stand, which is at the other end of the ground. The South stand next to the away fans is also noisy. The away fans used to be in the SE blocks.

City need to do this with the away fans. Give them 109, 110, 111, the current SSL1 away end, 114, and if necessary 115. Shove them in the ES/SS/L1 corner.

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Newcastle had the right idea, shove the aways in the car park!
 
Tolmie scores said:
Newcastle had the right idea, shove the aways in the car park!
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TBF, it’s a cracking view. :-)

When Yaya scored that goal and the camera panned on to the City fans in the gods, you could see me and other City fans going mental.

Sticking the away fans in the in SSL3 hasn’t worked. It gives them an elevated position to sing and chant. SSL3 should be full of City fans.
 
jrb said:
Leeds United‘s home end and main singing section is the North stand, which is at the other end of the ground. The South stand next to the away fans is also noisy. The away fans used to be in the SE blocks.

City need to do this with the away fans. Give them 109, 110, 111, the current SSL1 away end, 114, and if necessary 115. Shove them in the ES/SS/L1 corner.

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Ah fair enough I thought South Stand was their main one. I live in Leeds these days and always seem to be the stand people are trying to get in. North didn’t look particularly lively last season when I was in the away end but was hard to tell with it being other side to be fair.

I did go to a few games a few years back before they started doing well again but the whole place was quiet and half empty! How times have changed.
 
jrb said:
Leeds United‘s home end and main singing section is the North stand, which is at the other end of the ground. The South stand next to the away fans is also noisy. The away fans used to be in the SE blocks.

City need to do this with the away fans. Give them 109, 110, 111, the current SSL1 away end, 114, and if necessary 115. Shove them in the ES/SS/L1 corner.

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We were directly behind the goal when we played them in 2004, the corner is too small for the Prem 3k.

We need to give up 6 blocks if we are going lower tier.
 
jrb said:
TBF, it’s a cracking view. :-)

When Yaya scored that goal and the camera panned on to the City fans in the gods, you could see me and other City fans going mental.

Sticking the away fans in the in SSL3 hasn’t worked. It gives them an elevated position to sing and chant. SSL3 should be full of City fans.
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Agreed. Probably a daft question but how easy is it for the club to make that kind of change? I don’t know the mechanisms, or how long it’d take.
 
swintonjamie said:
Ah fair enough I thought South Stand was their main one. I live in Leeds these days and always seem to be the stand people are trying to get in. North didn’t look particularly lively last season when I was in the away end but was hard to tell with it being other side to be fair.

I did go to a few games a few years back before they started doing well again but the whole place was quiet and half empty! How times have changed.
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Historically Leeds main end was the North Stand AKA Geldard End back in the day it would have given the Anfield Kop or Stretford End a run for their money. In the 80s a lot of Leeds boys gravitated to the South Stand to intimidate visiting fans. It appears the South stand is now their rowdy singing section. Suspect older Leeds boys still take pride in being Geldard Enders. Similar happened at OT where their boys abandoned the Stretford End for K Stand. Even an element of our support left the Kippax for the North Stand.
 
jrb said:
TBF, it’s a cracking view. :-)

When Yaya scored that goal and the camera panned on to the City fans in the gods, you could see me and other City fans going mental.

Sticking the away fans in the in SSL3 hasn’t worked. It gives them an elevated position to sing and chant. SSL3 should be full of City fans.
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You're right. Every season we play at St James' the atmosphere in that top tier is brilliant. The structure of the stadium however means that it doesn't dominate, unlike when we fill SSL3 with away fans at the Etihad. Which brings us back to the obvious solution of extending the North Stand and making it safe standing Home Fans only from top to bottom Then put away fans in the current SSL1. Simples.
 
swintonjamie said:
Ah fair enough I thought South Stand was their main one. I live in Leeds these days and always seem to be the stand people are trying to get in. North didn’t look particularly lively last season when I was in the away end but was hard to tell with it being other side to be fair.

I did go to a few games a few years back before they started doing well again but the whole place was quiet and half empty! How times have changed.
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The South Stand is also known as the singing end but they effectively have 2 with the North Stand Kop, as well.
 
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