I am voting Labour next ....talk me out of it.

It's not up to anyone to talk you out of it; it's your choice. Same if you said you were voting for the Conservative party. Who you vote for is your business, no one else's.

Makes party political broadcasts a bit redundant doesn't it?
 
I don’t feel like there’s much difference between the conservatives or Labour.

The councils in particular are corrupt as anything, but I would say make your own mind up
 
I don’t feel like there’s much difference between the conservatives or Labour.

The councils in particular are corrupt as anything, but I would say make your own mind up
I’m sure that by the time the election comes round you’ll have convinced yourself they’re all the same which will be all the justification you need to vote Tory again in spite of their mismanagement of the country for the last 13 years and no doubt the next 2. Actually you sound like you’re already there.
 
I’m sure that by the time the election comes round you’ll have convinced yourself they’re all the same which will be all the justification you need to vote Tory again in spite of their mismanagement of the country for the last 13 years and no doubt the next 2. Actually you sound like you’re already there.

Fuck things up even more for the next generation and pretend you played no part in it.
 
I’m sure that by the time the election comes round you’ll have convinced yourself they’re all the same which will be all the justification you need to vote Tory again in spite of their mismanagement of the country for the last 13 years and no doubt the next 2. Actually you sound like you’re already there.
If anything, the Tories should have that as their marketing campaign. "Labour. Conservative. Aren't we all just the same Eton educated inherited rich boys club? Vote Tory. It's all a jolly good waste of time anyway"
 
I don’t feel like there’s much difference between the conservatives or Labour.

The councils in particular are corrupt as anything, but I would say make your own mind up

Take your evidence to the police if that's true. I'm sure you are aware that council employees are told not to accept gifts over £25, yet MPs can accept a gift of any amount as long it is declared.
 
I don’t feel like there’s much difference between the conservatives or Labour.

The councils in particular are corrupt as anything, but I would say make your own mind up
It’s an interesting concept, one where you can deny any sense of responsibility for what may come as it would have happened anyway with a Labour Party that are ‘all the same’.

At least you admit that the current governance are corrupt, which shows you accept and champion what you see which probably means that you are making something out of it.
 
Is it really a democracy if you can't try to persuade people to change their minds?
My idea of democracy is for people to make up their own mind about who they wish to vote for, without being "persuaded" to vote for A, B, C or whoever. You clearly disagree. Fine. I'm not going to try to change your mind by endlessly arguing/debating/discussing (you choose) the issue.
 
Talk you out of it ? Are you serious ?
Starmer, Rayner, Nandy . The three stooges. Do I need to go on ?
 
My idea of democracy is for people to make up their own mind about who they wish to vote for, without being "persuaded" to vote for A, B, C or whoever. You clearly disagree. Fine. I'm not going to try to change your mind by endlessly arguing/debating/discussing (you choose) the issue.

It was an open ended question intended to provoke thought rather than debate.

Obviously doesn't work for those of a more linear mindset though.

Representive party democracy is reliant on attempting to persuade others to change their mind. I would have thought that is fairly self-evident and non controversial view.
 
It was an open ended question intended to provoke thought rather than debate.

Obviously doesn't work for those of a more linear mindset though.

Representive party democracy is reliant on attempting to persuade others to change their mind. I would have thought that is fairly self-evident and non controversial view.
As I previously stated, I'm not going to debate this endlessly with you. You clearly have your opinion, in the same way as I have mine. Have a good evening.
 
As I previously stated, I'm not going to debate this endlessly with you. You clearly have your opinion, in the same way as I have mine. Have a good evening.

I've explained I don't have any interest in any debate with you. It's a boring and pointless endeavour.
 

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