PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Bluemoonadam]

finally caught up think we will all feel a lot better on friday when pep confirms his commitment to the club. that alone will tell me hes been assured we have done nothing wrong. as many have pointed out both parties seem to have to much to lose in this and i can only see some form of deal being reached otherwise this will drag on for maybe another 10 years if not more as i just cant see city accepting any kind of punishment that makes us look guilty and will go as far as possible no matter how long it takes.

If he doesn't confirm his commitment then our arses will be twitching even more.

 

[Fordyboy46]

All very very quiet from the media twats today, have they been threatened by City to shut the fuck up?

 

[Jesus H Gabz]

Gary Neville of all people stating the red shirts are jealous of likkle City & driving the PL’s agenda, he does throw in a few cheap shots, and believes the rags would be top dog if it was down to sustainability (that bit’s delusional) but it seems he’s stayed true to his opinion of the game needing an independent regulator. I wasn’t aware that we where supporters of it till Monday, so I guess he finds himself in a strange position, the fact he has come out in support of an inde-rep so strongly is forcing him to adopt a positive approach to City (on this front anyway) I’m sure he is well aware of our stance on governance & it makes you think if an unlikely alliance is forming ? Yeah I know gniac !

 

[WRicko]

We don't know the details yet, but there is a distinct possibility that they are charging us because they don't have information because we've withheld it. One of the things CAS said was that they believed it wouldn't have got to them if we'd cooperated in the first place.

Surely they could only charge us with non cooperation. Not the things they have charged us with if they don’t have the evidence. The police don’t charge people with murder etc because they think they did it or because they don’t cooperate.

 

[feedmpenzaandhewillscore]

Not sure it's been mentioned but upon reading into these charges some of them are down to us not complying with UEFA's FFP rules is that correct? If so then what the fuck does that have to do with the premier league? So if a club breaks the UEFA FFP rules and get punished with fines, points deductions etc then that club can/will then get nailed a 2nd time with further punishment from a totally separate organisation? That's absolutely outrageous... So UEFA can't punish us over a certain time period and therefore no punishment but the premier league can stroll in and issue punishments for breaching another organisations rules even though the organisation who's rules have been breached have issued zero punishment?! Absolute fuckin madness by an organisation that doesn't believe in double jeopardy for a penalty and a red card as they don't believe in being punished twice absolutely laughable... Maybe they should introduce that jeopardy rule into their own FFP rules eh the wankers.

The FFP rules by Uefa are mirrored by the premier league as well. That is why when Uefa charged City on the 14th of February 2020 the premier league automatically opened up an investigation as well.

 

[Shaggy]

Worse actually. More **** clubs. At the mo we are being marginalised by english **** clubs. A ESL would comprise of not only english **** clubs but also european **** clubs. And the european **** clubs are probably bigger cunts than the english **** clubs

Basically a complete shower of shit cunts all round then

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

Another thought is what would be the impact to the UK government and locally Manchester if Abu Dhabi pulled out of all investments and loans etc, due to the treatment of them as City owners

But we’ve been saying we are not owned by Abu Dhabi state.

 

[Stoned Rose]

Exactly. Much as we don't want to admit it, City are small fry in all if this, a minor investment in the grander scheme of things.

Reputational damage extends beyond the Club and I don't believe the Premier League have truly digested what the ramifications are for years to come.

I suspect Khaldoon and Sheikh Mansour will want to be heard personally by these spunk bubble fuck-wits.

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[Protein Junkie]

How about Primer plus league ?
2 times more money and many more ?hateful 8 not invited.

Primer ? this is going to end up in Coat

 

[twosips]

I thought @twosips (who blocked me on Twitter for **ck all ) spoke really well on the overlap to be honest. Just a shame he didn’t mention the £50m stadium costs Liverpool used to get through FFP.

Cheers...and what was it over? You've gotta bear in mind I get an awful lot of shit all of the time and sometimes I'm just not in the mood! Sorry if it was genuinely nowt! On tired days my bar can be pretty low

 

[Chi-town blues]

Primer ? this is going to end up in Coat

hahah nice one

 

[Bluesince1979]

Basically a complete shower of shit cunts all round then

yeah. Some are shitter cunts than others. But all shit cunts.






Cunts

 

[DMA's]

Gary Neville of all people stating the red shirts are jealous of likkle City & driving the PL’s agenda, he does throw in a few cheap shots, and believes the rags would be top dog if it was down to sustainability (that bit’s delusional) but it seems he’s stayed true to his opinion of the game needing an independent regulator. I wasn’t aware that we where supporters of it till Monday, so I guess he finds himself in a strange position, the fact he has come out in support of an inde-rep so strongly is forcing him to adopt a positive approach to City (on this front anyway) I’m sure he is well aware of our stance on governance & it makes you think if an unlikely alliance is forming ? Yeah I know gniac !

Whatever Neville’s motives are make no mistake it will be to benefit Gary Neville. The twat is the very definition of a champagne socialist. Sneaky horrible man

 

[WRicko]

The auditors would have seen the same hacked emails as the PL and UEFA, the difference is that they wouldn't have asked us about them (or started an investigation).

I don’t follow. You might be right but auditors are our friends. The PL are not. We are more likely to look kindly on requests for information from our auditors. The PL surely cannot go off on one and request information way outside its jurisdiction from sponsors etc. The auditors might not normally ask about emails etc but if there are doubts about where money came from or what’s related party they would if it’s in the public domain it surely affect the accounts. If they didn’t ask it’s for good reason like the fact that the law accounting practice is so clear that Etihad etc are not related in which case the PL don’t have a case and can do one

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

Does feel that way and in this world where we are bombarded with social media, news etc, thats just magnified hugely. The only good thing that can come out of this now is we are cleared, but even then City as fans, no one cares, we will continue to face the same attitudes, hostility and shite from other people and the media.

It's just another turn on "You'd just be small without the money" and "Let's see Pep manage a League One club" and "20 times" and everything else on the City Spinorama Wheel. No matter what the success is, there's always an excuse that helps fans of other clubs feel better. If we win, we bought it, or we cheated. If we lose, well, how the hell could you have lost with all that money spent? So we can't ever win, and they can't ever lose. This dynamic has been ongoing for 15 years. It's in-part noticeable to me because sport over here tends not to be so tribal save between certain rival cities in certain sports. Must be even worse for locals there who have to experience it in-person every day.

 

[Jesus H Gabz]

Whatever Neville’s motives are make no mistake it will be to benefit Gary Neville. The twat is the very definition of a champagne socialist. Sneaky horrible man

Absolutely! But right now I’ll take it, he talks and the lemmings listen, we don’t have that many in the media shining a light on the background politics in play

 

[WRicko]

One thing is abundantly clear, the burden of proof is so high for the Premier League, I fail to see how the panel reaches it.

They would need to physically have former players waiting outside in the corridor to give evidence against us.

And if they had that, we would have known it in the four years we have dragged it out and it would never have gone this far.

It's a final Hail Mary, yet still predicated on non-compliance and when we are comfortable showing the supporting documents.

BDO will stand with us, as will all our sponsors and investors.

And that's before we discuss in essence, the temerity to put Khaldoon in the dock and him supposedly complicit in mass financial fraud.

The damage to his reputation alone and the boards he sits on would necessitate him to personally seek legal recourse.

It's a can of worms.

Will we hear anything from auditors sponsors investors etc. so we can sleep more easily whilst the club keeps its council ?

 

[SambaStyle]

The more I think of it.. the more I think relegation would be off the cards (and stripping titles)

City has Pep and Haaland, two of the biggest stars and attractions in world football, playing in the Premier League. City has rivalries with United and Liverpool, big for TV deals views.
TV companies paying for the Premier League product wont be happy losing City, Haaland et al.

City owners have pumped millions into the UK economy, the UK Government wont take kindly to them being fucked over.

Stripping titles leaves open the chance for lawsuits from clubs who were relegated or missed out on money from previous wins/champions league.

£100 M Fine, 15 points deduction and 2 Transfer window bans (after Summer). I think most would accept that?

 

[Chi-town blues]

Gary Neville of all people stating the red shirts are jealous of likkle City & driving the PL’s agenda, he does throw in a few cheap shots, and believes the rags would be top dog if it was down to sustainability (that bit’s delusional) but it seems he’s stayed true to his opinion of the game needing an independent regulator. I wasn’t aware that we where supporters of it till Monday, so I guess he finds himself in a strange position, the fact he has come out in support of an inde-rep so strongly is forcing him to adopt a positive approach to City (on this front anyway) I’m sure he is well aware of our stance on governance & it makes you think if an unlikely alliance is forming ? Yeah I know gniac !

Speaking of rags and their sustainability, it would be interesting to see how they are balancing their books.

 

[Stoned Rose]

In the three jurisdictions of the UK (Northern Ireland; England & Wales; and Scotland) there are only two standards of proof in trials. (There are others which are defined in statutes, such as those relating to police powers.)

The criminal standard was formerly described as "beyond reasonable doubt". That standard remains, and the words commonly used, though the Judicial Studies Board guidance is that juries might be assisted by being told that to convict they must be persuaded "so that you are sure".

The civil standard is 'the balance of probabilities', often referred to in judgments as "more likely than not".

What a cute exchange ;)