PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

I'm back home now so can have a look at this shit in more detail but my understanding is that just because there isn't an explicit limitation, doesn't mean one can't be applied in law. The accepted limit in English law is six years so a court could potentially apply that in this case. That would possibly disqualify anything that happened prior to February 2017 therefore.

In the CAS case, I seem to remember that they looked at the whole of the latest financial year within that six year period, so that would include anything in and after the 2016/17 financial year.

We know who's pulling the PL's strings here. My suspicion about this case has always been that the PL want to escape with their honour satisfied without rocking the boat any more than necessary. That was the case with UEFA, who offered us a soft settlement which we refused.

Ao if this 'independent commission' were to say that all the events were time-barred, then the PL can say they tried and loads of mud sticks without any actual examination of the charges and evidence for and against. We would be forever tainted and that would probably suit our US-owned rivals even more than a six or seven figure fine.

With UEFA, we knew what the charges related to, courtesy of Der Spiegel, and it was easy to see how ridiculous they were. I said at the time that those emails were very selective and very much 'nudge, nudge, wink, wink'', casting aspersions without any real evidence. CAS comprehensively confirmed that view of course.

It's hard to say in this case as the charges seem quite extensive and appear to relate to matters not in the public domain. It could be we have done significant things wrong or it could be that they've picked up little things that are open to interpretation. It could be the difference between the equivalent of a major, deliberate attempt to defraud VAT and a simple misunderstanding about a VAT calculation on mileage claims. We'll find out in time I guess.

Not sure if it's already been pointed out but, unlike UEFA and CAS, there is no arbitration in the PL rules. So this could easily end up in court. We could yet see Pannick in the courts of London again.

The other thing that struck me was that this seems to be a replay of the events of 1904-1906, when the FA were determined to find something wrong at the nouveau riche, upstart club that had upset the Football League aristocracy like Aston Villa by nearly winning a League and FA Cup double in 1904, just ten years into its existence.

Billy Meredith spilled the beans on illegal payments to players and we got absolutely hammered, while other clubs doing exactly the same thing (i.e. pretty well all of them) were unaffected. I'm sure if the PL spent four years going through Liverpool's, united's Arsenal's and particularly Chelsea's books, they'd find something they didn't like. But we know they won't turn that stone over to see what crawls out.
There you go I said Meredith had plenty to answer for in an earlier post
Thanks for your interpretation PB
 
We need to refrain from the whataboutery, life is full of it and is ignored as and when required.

Don't bother wasting oxygen with people on Twitter or armchair fiscal experts.

When things are serious, people such as President Biden have to jump on a plane to Saudi and fist-bump the Crown Prince to beg for more oil.

Or Trump travels to Abu Dhabi and is told where to sit by Sheikh Mansour.

This is so much bigger than City if it comes to it.

If we think the UK is in trouble now, wait until Sunak picks up the blower and is told £50bn is being invested elsewhere.
Great words as ever but it would be good to know when all this shit will end.
It's very upsetting for be honest even though i trust the club
 
Why? If you remove city you have to remove their results no? are the PL going to go back over all those years and determine what would of been had city not been involved? Did we relegate teams? Would they be entitled to sue? What about lost revenue from CL spots? Cup loses etc? It’s a huge can of worms that they’ll not want to open trust me. If it was given to Liverpool as an example would Chelsea, Utd etc just accept that or argue the case? As I say it’s far too complicated and won’t happen. We may get points deducted the next season a huge fine etc or band on signing players for X windows but they’ll not strip us. Add to that we’d contest it and it’d drag on for multiple years.
Not sure Liverpool, Rags and Chelsea owners would argue. All Yank owned.
 
Is that supposed to be directed at me?
No sorry - my quote disappeared. It was re the quote below!!

I do feel kind of sad for the players. Imagine winning a trophy and playing your guts out, only to be told that it doesn't count because your club is going to be penalised and it'll be awarded to Liverpool instead even though they came second.
 
Why? If you remove city you have to remove their results no? are the PL going to go back over all those years and determine what would of been had city not been involved? Did we relegate teams? Would they be entitled to sue? What about lost revenue from CL spots? Cup loses etc? It’s a huge can of worms that they’ll not want to open trust me. If it was given to Liverpool as an example would Chelsea, Utd etc just accept that or argue the case? As I say it’s far too complicated and won’t happen. We may get points deducted the next season a huge fine etc or band on signing players for X windows but they’ll not strip us. Add to that we’d contest it and it’d drag on for multiple years.
The headache the league would have if they do this is massive. It not a case of you finish second so title is yours. Everyone will want extra money for moving up a position.
What about if we took 6 points off a team that got relegated by 5 points? Could they claim they would have stayed up if it wasn't for us ?
Reply games ?
 
I think the quotes about a quick outcome say it all. The hateful eight want us gone…. They have grabbed at any possible charges, don’t give a shit about the facts, have no interest in a fair hearing….pretty much like UEFA and what a bunch of cunts they looked at CAS with their photocopied emails from Der Spiegel.

There will be no quick outcomes, which suggests those quotes are bogus or made by someone with zero knowledge of the processes involved.
 
The good thing is, that won’t happen. Absolutely no way to prove a team that finished second would have won it, had the winner not been there. Also, imagine the can of worms opened on relegation, European places etc.
IF we’re found guilty of anything, and that’s a BIG IF, it’ll be a fine. Guilty of everything it might be relegation and/or points deduction and/or transfer ban.
Good point.
 

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