PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Tomblue]

Fuck it - here goes…

Prediction based on conversations today with people ‘in the know’.

Give it six months of litigation and the PL will drop all charges against City due to insufficient evidence.

Don’t shoot the messenger.

This would be ludicrous, if there was insufficient evidence that would have been the announcement earlier in the week. They clearly think they have sufficient evidence to charge us in the first place.

This will drag on.

 

[chesterbells]

you have to ask where would that leave the PL hierarchy?

still in the red pocket I assume

 

[Kippax1973]

This would be ludicrous, if there was insufficient evidence that would have been the announcement earlier in the week. They clearly think they have sufficient evidence to charge us in the first place.

This will drag on.

Your right it does sound ludicrous but I'm guessing they don't know what "irrefutable" evidence we have yet, but on the 23rd Im sure they will have a good idea

 

[marco]

It's not like a private members club though is it. It's a business worth hundreds of million of pounds, with hundreds of employees. We don't go to the pl private members club for a drink and a bite to eat, then get a lifetime ban for calling the landlords mrs a slag. It's our whole business. I believe we will win, maybe a fine for non cooperation same as CAS, but any draconian punishment that doesn't fit the crime will surely have a route to legal redress.

private members club in the sense they invent their own punishment bar for breaking the rules,exactly the same as PL dishing out what they see fit

 

[JewelZee]

It's not like a private members club though is it. It's a business worth hundreds of million of pounds, with hundreds of employees. We don't go to the pl private members club for a drink and a bite to eat, then get a lifetime ban for calling the landlords mrs a slag. It's our whole business. I believe we will win, maybe a fine for non cooperation same as CAS, but any draconian punishment that doesn't fit the crime will surely have a route to legal redress.

1000%

 

[Ric]

Would be nice if via Khaldoon’s contacts within the government, it was stated that numerous financial ‘benefits’ coming the UK’s way will get cancelled, unless the PL is regulated by the government, with the first order of business being a government investigation into the cartel. The ‘****-er’ becomes the hunted.

I’ve had a few drinks though!!

I’d be very surprised if there wasn’t some diplomatic pressure being applied from the UAE, tbh. This has gone a bit beyond just City now, with the likes of Khaldoon and Mansour himself having their integrity so publicly questioned. It seems unthinkable that the recent investment plans won’t be used as leverage imo.

 

[John Wayne]

This would be ludicrous, if there was insufficient evidence that would have been the announcement earlier in the week. They clearly think they have sufficient evidence to charge us in the first place.

This will drag on.

I find it hard to believe that would happen too. I think that scenario only plays out in the event that there is diplomatic dialogue in Whitehall. That in itself seems a bit conspiratorial.

 

[chesterbells]

Highly unlikely as it's taken four years of investigation to get to this point.

Is 4 years an indication they have lots of evidence
OR
is it an indication they actually don’t have much that it’s taken this long already, but that timing wise they had to bring it to a head because it was becoming farcical (and evidence that they can’t run the game properly etc)?

 

[paska]

If that’s the outcome, I can more than live with bitter KFA’s spewing that sort of shite. It’s no different to what we heard following the CAS verdict.

Kenniving f***ing a**eholes??

 

[nmc]

It would be a huge surprise if they did have anything else, as it would have come out in the last four years of litigation and a smoking gun of such magnitude would have resulted in a plea deal being taken.

We've won three Premier Leagues since it started. We have denied Liverpool in the process.

If the Red Shirts and Premier League had anything else, the trigger would have been pulled a long while ago.

If our books were being cooked. Silverlake would have uncovered it in their due diligence- I’d have more faith in them than the PL. I really can’t see how someone like Silverlake would invest in a tinpot outfit who file dodgy accounts for 9 years…. And on top of that fail to enter a team in the FA Cup!

 

[Worsleyweb]

I’d be very surprised if there wasn’t some diplomatic pressure being applied from the UAE, tbh. This has gone a bit beyond just City now, with the likes of Khaldoon and Mohamed Al Mazrouei, as well as Mansour himself, having their integrity so publicly questioned. It seems unthinkable that the recent investment plans won’t be used as leverage imo.

This will be sorted out at Government level I am sure of it.

 

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[Indaparkside]

What will be will be no good speculating

 

[John Wayne]

This will be sorted out at Government level I am sure of it.

How though? Is it realistic to expect 115 charges to just be dropped one day?

 

[Oyster28catcher]

What’s to stop our owners maintaining the status quo and loading us with debt, then taking a small hit from the FL? Wolves spent a fortune and signed Reuben Neves in the championship

As post 9320 failed to have any connection to that number's special meaning, I've lost hope. However. I gained hope by going back that far in this insidious scandal. Where's our Netflix production?!

It's only 13 charges a season... in 9 years, right? Why didn't the PL do them yearly? #conspiracy

 

[Silva2021]

This will be sorted out at Government level I am sure of it.

I must just be green to it as I don’t see it that way.

However, I hope you are right would be a huge power move.

My q would be why not before if that was the idea. Most expected it to be dropped it took so long, a couple of days of moaning it would have been forgotten.

 

[marco]

It's not like a private members club though is it. It's a business worth hundreds of million of pounds, with hundreds of employees. We don't go to the pl private members club for a drink and a bite to eat, then get a lifetime ban for calling the landlords mrs a slag. It's our whole business. I believe we will win, maybe a fine for non cooperation same as CAS, but any draconian punishment that doesn't fit the crime will surely have a route to legal redress.

in an ideal world your correct, but there is no legal redress once we have exausted the two hearings and thats if we meet the crieteria to have a second hearing,there within there rights to serve whatever punishment they see fit,its wrong i know but we as the club signed up to the rules and accepted the T&Cs, if there is another way to squeeze it into the law courts it would be case law

 

[blueduff]

I’d be very surprised if there wasn’t some diplomatic pressure being applied from the UAE, tbh. This has gone a bit beyond just City now, with the likes of Khaldoon and Mansour himself, having their integrity so publicly questioned. It seems unthinkable that the recent investment plans won’t be used as leverage imo.

Agree with the thinking there but then I'm not sure through which channel that would be pressured?

 

[WRicko]

Possibly in need of a shake-up but possibly freer from the red clubs.

After four years, they had two choices:
- charge City, and say "we tried" to anyone who pushed them to do so, and "we were testing the rules to see if they'd been broken, as well as the non-cooperation issue" to others.

- don't charge City, and have everyone wonder what they wasted the four years doing, as well as annoying anyone pushing for an investigation (who would then go their media mates to slate them, making remaining in post untenable)

I suspect they're better off bringing the charges and having them fail.

Except making such serous allegations of wrong doing by a multi billion $ company and deputy PM especially if completely unfounded surely risk legal financial and political fall out on an epic scale especially if it was as part of some conspiracy better to just say looked found nothing

 

[nmc]

I’m guessing here, but can the PL impose sanctions/charges if they’ve not got all the evidence? If we’ve not cooperated they can’t have all the evidence. If that makes sense?

I’ve no idea why, and only have a basic knowledge of law. But i get the feeling the PL aren’t that committed to this. And their commitment and confidence must surely have taken a hit with the clubs fairly robust reply and some half decent journalists questioning the whole thing.

And the fact that they landed the charges with all the precision of a blind knife thrower… the fact they got some of the charges confused tells name this was heart hearted, rushed, incompetent or a combination of the three.