Shamima Begum

domalino said:
What logic? It's a secret court decision based on an opinion by a secret and anonymous civil servant.

You're celebrating the idea that your citizenship can be stripped and you've no recourse to face your accuser or even what you're accused of.
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She went away to learn how to blow people up. It’s a bit different to your usual crime.

Fuck her.
 
domalino said:
Did she? OK then giver her a trial and convict her for it.
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No point in that,costing tax payers money over here,she went over there for a reason,so enjoy your time there,hope it was worthwhile.

Or bring her back,re home her,get her benefits and live happily ever after,again at taxpayers cost.

I know which one I'd prefer to happen
 
meeesh said:
No point in that,costing tax payers money over here,she went over there for a reason,so enjoy your time there,hope it was worthwhile.

Or bring her back,re home her,get her benefits and live happily ever after,again at taxpayers cost.

I know which one I'd prefer to happen
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Why spend taxpayer money trying or convicting anyone then? Why bother spending money on trying a rapist, CPS & the police say they're guilty, why pay to house them at HMP?

Let's just strip the citizenship of everyone accused of a crime and never let them back in the country.
 
domalino said:
Why spend taxpayer money trying or convicting anyone then? Why bother spending money on trying a rapist, CPS & the police say they're guilty.

Let's just strip the citizenship of everyone accused of a crime and never let them back in the country.
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Not every shit head in this country has an ideology in their thick heads to go over to a country that encourages terrorism,and learning how to strap suicide bombs to themselves I suppose.

They are just shit heads,that need taking off the streets,in her case however,she did the authorities a massive favour,and took herself off the streets,and even onto a plane to go thousands of miles away,in fact in scheme of things it's an even better result for the authorities than Madrid in Liverpool last night.
 
meeesh said:
Not every shit head in this country has an ideology in their thick heads to go over to a country that encourages terrorism,and learning how to strap suicide bombs to themselves I suppose.

They are just shit heads,that need taking off the streets,in her case however,she did the authorities a massive favour,and took herself off the streets,and even onto a plane to go thousands of miles away,in fact in scheme of things it's an even better result for the authorities than Madrid in Liverpool last night.
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You're not answering the question, but your last paragraph seems to agree that we should simply strip the citizenship of anyone who leaves the country while accused of a crime because it "does the authorities a favour."
 
domalino said:
You're not answering the question, but your last paragraph seems to agree that we should simply strip the citizenship of anyone who leaves the country while accused of a crime because it "does the authorities a favour."
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You asked the question why spend taxpayers money,and as I said there is no point,as she has fucked off to pastures new,so now as it cannot come back it ain't gonna cost a bean.

It's a perfect scenario for the authorities yea,all day long
 
meeesh said:
Not every shit head in this country has an ideology in their thick heads to go over to a country that encourages terrorism,and learning how to strap suicide bombs to themselves I suppose.

They are just shit heads,that need taking off the streets,in her case however,she did the authorities a massive favour,and took herself off the streets,and even onto a plane to go thousands of miles away,in fact in scheme of things it's an even better result for the authorities than Madrid in Liverpool last night.
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So what do you want to do with child murderers.
 
The blue phantom said:
So what do you want to do with child murderers.
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In this country ?

Get them off the streets,in fact fucking killing them would be ideal,but that won't happen here unfortunately.

Or are you widening a scenario to a child murderer who has fucked off to another country,I don't get your question to be honest,it doesn't compare a jot to what is being discussed here,but I will hear you out.

Try and explain what you mean,unless you have already seen my answer to the question.
 
meeesh said:
In this country ?

Get them off the streets,in fact fucking killing them would be ideal,but that won't happen here unfortunately.

Or are you widening a scenario to a child murderer who has fucked off to another country,I don't get your question to be honest,it doesn't compare a jot to what is being discussed here,but I will hear you out.

Try and explain what you mean,unless you have already seen my answer to the question.
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Ha! I was literally just typing out a comment that I bet this debate splits exactly down the same lines as capital punishment.
 
domalino said:
Why spend taxpayer money trying or convicting anyone then? Why bother spending money on trying a rapist, CPS & the police say they're guilty, why pay to house them at HMP?

Let's just strip the citizenship of everyone accused of a crime and never let them back in the country.
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If they've already fucked off out of the country, then I'm all for it...
 
meeesh said:
In this country ?

Get them off the streets,in fact fucking killing them would be ideal,but that won't happen here unfortunately.
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Tbf you answered it here. Someone alluded to it earlier about peoples rights and if it was your child etc etc.

So let me ask you this Meeesh, if One of your children ever happened to go off the rails and did an unspeakable evil act of murder would you actively support for the state to kill her/him?
 
The blue phantom said:
Tbf you answered it here. Someone alluded to it earlier about peoples rights and if it was your child etc etc.

So let me ask you this Meeesh, if One of your children ever happened to go off the rails and did an unspeakable evil act of murder would you actively support for the state to kill her/him?
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Yea,if I didn't kill them myself first.

All about upbringing my friend,there are a lot of as I call them politely shit heads,and a lot who know right from wrong,and behave in a proper manner,which in this fucked up world we all live in,is very rare unfortunately.

Now this person has not,as far as we know,killed anyone,but seemed to be very interested in the thought process that is behind it,so ventured afar to see through their own eyes what is was about.

Very strange thing to do,but as I say each to their own,as I say a fucked up world we live in,but now to want to come back here,I'd say it's a risk the authorities are not prepared to take,and can't fault them really.

You know something,the majority of men or women in the street in the UK upon seeing this news today,either on their phone,as it pinged earlier,or later when they see the news on tv,are all gonna say one simple word- GOOD
 
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