Time wasting.

LongsightM13 said:
Yep just look at how players and coaches are already exploiting a player safety issue like the new head injury protocols for their own dishonest ends. Go down clutching your head to stop a breakaway.
Should be VAR and a red card
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The way to deal with that is the concussion rule, player has to go off for 10 mins but you can bring a sub on but when that sun goes off he cannot be used again. You can still have 5 subs but as many concussion subs as you want but those players can only be used once and then can’t take part again, Everton would be sending on the reserve keeper after 15 mins.
 
There’s a REALLY easy way to stop time wasting.

Yellow cards come out at ANY POINT during the game where a player is time wasting, it’s quite straightforward.

Just as a cynical foul at any point during the game results in a yellow, so should time wasting.

Yellow cards for keepers in the 91st minute winds me up rotten, what’s the points.

Winds me up nearly as much as Ederson getting a yellow in the 35th minute.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
I've got a better idea. Definitely tot up time wasting by each time then, if one team is losing, reduce normal time by the amount of wasted time. So if Villa wasted 5 minutes in that last game, call time at 85 minutes.
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I don't think that has sense. What if they level in the last second? Would it go back to 90 minutes again?
 
The sensible thing to deal with traditional time wasting is, as many have said, a rugby style independent timekeeper.

However, I see more and more a new kind of time wasting creeping into the game. This is the type practiced by Arsenal and other teams to either provide a ‘tactical timeout’ or to break up the rhythm of an opponent that is playing well.

This is where the keeper drops on the ground and the physios come on giving Arteta a few minutes to coach his team on the hour mark. The purpose isn’t to actually waste time per se (although the effect for spectators is the same), so the guarantee of time getting added on at the end won’t stop it. The only way this could be stopped is for play to simply carry on for any occasion when players are injured, even if it’s a goalkeeper or two centre backs.

Perhaps football should just bite the bullet and give teams two tactical timeouts they can use during a match like in Yankee sports. At least that way you’d know it is within the rules and limited in length and frequency.
 
I have said often enough on here. I used to referee basketball - when the referees whistle blew the clock stopped and started again when the ball touched an infield player. ‘Injured’ players had to be substituted.
 
Chris B said:
The sensible thing to deal with traditional time wasting is, as many have said, a rugby style independent timekeeper.

However, I see more and more a new kind of time wasting creeping into the game. This is the type practiced by Arsenal and other teams to either provide a ‘tactical timeout’ or to break up the rhythm of an opponent that is playing well.

This is where the keeper drops on the ground and the physios come on giving Arteta a few minutes to coach his team on the hour mark. The purpose isn’t to actually waste time per se (although the effect for spectators is the same), so the guarantee of time getting added on at the end won’t stop it. The only way this could be stopped is for play to simply carry on for any occasion when players are injured, even if it’s a goalkeeper or two centre backs.

Perhaps football should just bite the bullet and give teams two tactical timeouts they can use during a match like in Yankee sports. At least that way you’d know it is within the rules and limited in length and frequency.
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Or let the trainer on whilst play continues
 
If a player goes down simply play on and let physio on, especially for the crap with cramp. As regards goalkeepers still think Ederson was the first keeper i ever saw booked in the first half, shows how we are reffed.
 
Chris B said:
The sensible thing to deal with traditional time wasting is, as many have said, a rugby style independent timekeeper.

However, I see more and more a new kind of time wasting creeping into the game. This is the type practiced by Arsenal and other teams to either provide a ‘tactical timeout’ or to break up the rhythm of an opponent that is playing well.

This is where the keeper drops on the ground and the physios come on giving Arteta a few minutes to coach his team on the hour mark. The purpose isn’t to actually waste time per se (although the effect for spectators is the same), so the guarantee of time getting added on at the end won’t stop it. The only way this could be stopped is for play to simply carry on for any occasion when players are injured, even if it’s a goalkeeper or two centre backs.

Perhaps football should just bite the bullet and give teams two tactical timeouts they can use during a match like in Yankee sports. At least that way you’d know it is within the rules and limited in length and frequency.
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This is easy to stop, it’s obvious so make it z yellow for all players & coaches involved.

We don’t have time outs in football so don’t allow them.
 
Slightly off topic

I was a coach under 9's could only play I think it was 20 minutes per half and a maximum of one added minute. This was set by the fa.

Anyway this one game the ref played 10 minutes added time, so an extra 50% of the half. We scored the winner in the 10th minute of added time lol.

I asked the ref why did he play 10 added time in the second half. His reply was ' I stop my watch every time the ball goes out of play, than add it on at the end of the game.
I said you do know under 9's can only play 21 minutes per half set by the fa. He didnt have a clue !
 
You can tell that it's being coached and it's a disgrace the level it has got to. Teams are also using different methods now, feigning injury has never been so rife.

Collina seems pretty intent on tackling this and it needs to happen fast.

Biggest issues are:
- Teams taking forever to get the ball back in play, throw-ins, goal kicks being the worst offenders.
- Goalkeepers holding the ball for 20-30 seconds before clearing it.
- Kicking the ball away (that's been around forever).
- Feigning injury.

We lost about 20mins in that first half through Palace time-wasting, I think Guaita was responsible for half of it.


- Referees need to start booking players immediately, no warnings, they don't need warnings, they know what they're doing. Ederson was booked in the 1st half against Arsenal, quite rightly and that needs to become the standard.
- Early bookings may resolve the need to not add time on.
- They either need to stop the clock or add sufficient time on.
- Feigning injuries is a tough one to judge. I would have an injury clock running next to the normal clock, the moment a player goes down that clock starts.
 
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