Keir Starmer

[BrianW]

Corbyn was represented as a Commie, when he was actually, by European standards, a bog-standard democratic socialist or left-wing social democrat.

That tells you all you need to know about this country and its poisonous press/media. That includes the 'left-wing' Guardian (actually Liberal at best) and BBC (Tory lickspittles in the news and current affairs part.)

 

[TinFoilHat]

Corbyn was represented as a Commie, when he was actually, by European standards, a bog-standard democratic socialist or left-wing social democrat.

That tells you all you need to know about this country and its poisonous press/media. That includes the 'left-wing' Guardian (actually Liberal at best) and BBC (Tory lickspittles in the news and current affairs part.)

Corbyn wanted us to have the scandavian economic/social model. Ironically those countries are lauded by many here. Yet the media made him out to be a mix of Stalin/Chavez and Pol Pot.

 

[TinFoilHat]

Why is Keith responding to the chancellors budget. Is he scared Rachel Reeves personality will make her look better than him?

 

[TinFoilHat]

His response is embarrassing.

No one told his MPs to repeat saying "Labour" when they clicked it was half arsed.

 

[Scottyboi]

His response is embarrassing.

No one told his MPs to repeat saying "Labour" when they clicked it was half arsed.

Was like starting the Follow you everywhere chant in the family stand haha.

 

[Rascal]

Why is Keith responding to the chancellors budget. ?

LOTO always responds to the Budget, Shadow Chancellors respond to autumn statements

. Is he scared Rachel Reeves personality will make her look better than him?

two peas from the same boring pod.

 

[TinFoilHat]

LOTO always responds to the Budget, Shadow Chancellors respond to autumn statements

two peas from the same boring pod.

Cheers for the clarification.

It was as if he was trying to out electioneer **** with his response.

 

[hilts]

His attempted football analogy jokes were pretty cringe.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Tory voters must hate him as he is going to absolutely destroy them in the election, played a blinder

 

[hilts]

Tory voters must hate him as he is going to absolutely destroy them in the election, played a blinder

In fairness with this lot you could put a mannequin there and it would win. He ain't destroying anyone its hari kari from the tories.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Tory voters must hate him as he is going to absolutely destroy them in the election, played a blinder

I’ve not even seen it but he always seems to have them squealing.

 

[hilts]

I’ve not even seen it but he always seems to have them squealing.

Bwahhhhhhhh!

 

[Scottyboi]

His attempted football analogy jokes were pretty cringe.

All MPs make me cringe with this shit not toxic enough for my liking needs some ''your mum'' jokes and death threats.

 

[west didsblue]

Corbyn was represented as a Commie, when he was actually, by European standards, a bog-standard democratic socialist or left-wing social democrat.

That tells you all you need to know about this country and its poisonous press/media. That includes the 'left-wing' Guardian (actually Liberal at best) and BBC (Tory lickspittles in the news and current affairs part.)

Corbyn’s problem wasn’t his politics particularly, it was his image and his judgment. In particular he was spectacularly wrong about Russia both in 2018 with Salisbury and more recently with the Ukraine invasion. Whilst his domestic policies would have been infinitely better than the shit show being delivered by the current lot, appeasement of Putin isn’t a good look and could be downright dangerous. Thankfully Labour now have a leader that has both the policies (assuming he adopts most of the 2019 manifesto) and the judgment. There have been some missteps from Starmer for example with him being too timid in some areas like the latest BBC debacle and not giving unequivocal support to many workers fighting for cost of living pay rises, but thanks to the power of the right wing media he is hamstrung to a large extent and the focus has to be getting rid of the current lot even if he doesn’t sound radical enough in opposition.

 

[hilts]

All MPs make me cringe with this shit not toxic enough for my liking needs some ''your mum'' jokes and death threats.

Would certainly make things more interesting

Hunt "and these measures will help more people back into work"

Starmer " is that why your mum was back on the street corner last night?"

Hunt " you what??? You want some Mr Creosote?"

Starmer " I had some last night Hunt ya ****"

 

[Scottyboi]

Would certainly make things more interesting

Hunt "and these measures will help more people back into work"

Starmer " is that why your mum was back on the street corner last night?"

Hunt " you what??? You want some Mr Creosote?"

Starmer " I had some last night Hunt ya ****"

All the theatre and play acting for the crowd pisses me off, makes a mockery out of the serious issues they're meant to be talking about and fixing.

 

[blueish swede]

In fairness with this lot you could put a mannequin there and it would win. He ain't destroying anyone its hari kari from the tories.

Corbyn didn't

 

[hilts]

Corbyn didn't

True but I'm talking present tense not past.

 

[Postman Pep]

Corbyn’s problem wasn’t his politics particularly, it was his image

Should have stopped there.

and his judgment. In particular he was spectacularly wrong about Russia both in 2018 with Salisbury

As in he gave a measured response and argued the case that a serious incident like that should be pursued through the relevant multinational agencies? In the same response he attempted to shine a light with regard to Russian influence on the party opposite.... to widespread heckling from his own MP's.

Hardly spectacularly wrong...

and more recently with the Ukraine invasion. Whilst his domestic policies would have been infinitely better than the shit show being delivered by the current lot, appeasement of Putin isn’t a good look and could be downright dangerous.

So to emphasise your point you go into hypotheticals 3 years on........ he's gone get over it.

Thankfully Labour now have a leader that has both the policies (assuming he adopts most of the 2019 manifesto)

Fucking lol. Never mind assuming stop pretending.

and the judgment. There have been some

missteps from Starmer for example with him being too timid in some areas like the latest BBC debacle and not giving unequivocal support to many workers fighting for cost of living pay rises, but thanks to the power of the right wing media he is hamstrung to a large extent and the focus has to be getting rid of the current lot even if he doesn’t sound radical enough in opposition.

Don't disagree but the point is 'getting rid of the current lot' doesn't address the root cause that is our shit political and media culture.

If we are laying down charges of appeasement, isn't that what Starmer is doing?

 

[west didsblue]

Should have stopped there.

As in he gave a measured response and argued the case that a serious incident like that should be pursued through the relevant multinational agencies? In the same response he attempted to shine a light with regard to Russian influence on the party opposite.... to widespread heckling from his own MP's.

Hardly spectacularly wrong...

So to emphasise your point you go into hypotheticals 3 years on........ he's gone get over it.

Fucking lol. Never mind assuming stop pretending.



Don't disagree but the point is 'getting rid of the current lot' doesn't address the root cause that is our shit political and media culture.

If we are laying down charges of appeasement, isn't that what Starmer is doing?

Corbyn’s measured response about Salisbury? You’re having a laugh. He publicly compared the intelligence briefing he was given with the Iraq dodgy dossier. Then at the time of the Ukraine invasion he was urging everyone who would listen not to arm Ukraine. Labour are well shut and it’s a shame his fans can’t get behind his replacement in spite of any concerns that Starmer isn’t far enough to the left.