OK let's stop singing 'always the victims' but what next ? I remember the 'Allez' song that a few lads switched around. Suddenly battered in the streets wasn't about a Champs league final, it was about Sean Cox. Every song, every comment, hell every thought that they don't like they want stopped.The only song I heard was the "Victims" song. I think you can debate for hours on whether that is a tragedy chant or not. If the Liverpool fans think it is then I'd rather we did not sing it. If we don't sing it then there should be no complaints. Perhaps sing about their specific missdemeanours in a different way. I'm no bard but I'm penning a small operetta about them featuring computer hacking, Alan Turing, bus damaging and going for pee in inappropriate places.
I'll stand to be corrected myself, but I'm sure I've seen opposition players using the other half.Ah ok I stand corrected.
Jurgen Klopp ran across the pitch when Origi scored a last minute goal in a Merseyside Derby. Suck it up, Scousers.The Liverpool Echo’s report, by Tom Cavilla, on Pep celeabrating a City goal ‘inside his technical area’.
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The only 'tragedy' reference I heard on Saturday was the shout "Munich" after the words "he's harder than Jaap Stam".OK let's stop singing 'always the victims' but what next ? I remember the 'Allez' song that a few lads switched around. Suddenly battered in the streets wasn't about a Champs league final, it was about Sean Cox. Every song, every comment, hell every thought that they don't like they want stopped.
There is a reason fans sing always the victims.
I love it when you're masterful.Unlike others, I can live with and understand (whilst not agree with) the club’s media strategy, in so far as it is structured in relation to its own specific aims and goals. I think the club is entitled to do what it sees as correct when it comes to pursuing its own direction of travel in managing the media.
However, it is completely unacceptable when us supporters are collateral damage as a consequence of this strategy. It shows an egregious lack of respect and loyalty by the club to its own patrons.
It’s starting to sour the relationship with the club for me, and I suspect many others.
This statement is part of a series of steps from the club in relation to the relationship with Liverpool, where they have consciously sacrificed the fair treatment of its own supporters at the altar of placating an organisation that has tried to destroy us, and continues to.
Grow a fucking spine City, and show some support for those that support you. There was no fucking singing about Hillsborough on Saturday and the club should stop cowering in the face of the false narrative that there was.
We already have Shakespeare and Dickens being 're-written and adapted. Next step would lead to having all chants checked and pre approved by Tony fucking Evans.Maybe it's time to come up with new chants that demonstrably and clearly aren't about Hillsborough.
However, to my mind the 'Victims' chant isn't about Hillsborough but about their general attitude to life; so it's easier said than done. Truth-twisting and false narratives are the norms at Anfield, let's be honest. So, short of getting all future chants approved by some sort of academic who analyses the meaning of words, I am not sure even new chants won't somehow be twisted to be 'about Hillsborough'.
Not with the msm, but I doubt the average match going fan throughout the country holds the same opinion.It's done them no harm has it?
Not with the msm, but I doubt the average match going fan throughout the country holds the same opinion.
So if we decide that every song Liverpool sing is, in fact, a veiled reference to the munic air disaster? (including their favourite dirge)There is no point crying about the club statement. The fact is LFC think the Victims chant is about Hillsborough so that means it can’t be sung without getting a load of shit in the media. And if its like Saturday then the club will continue to have to write apologies.
No matter what we think it’s about it shouldn’t be sung.
We can argue quite rightly all day that it’s nothing to do with Hillsborough - but the minute they claimed it was a reference to Hillsborough it can’t be sung without the shit in the media and public apologies.
If we had the same kind of media control that they do it might be different.
For all we know it could be a rag who did it. They are also known not to like Liverpool FC.Correct.
No proof it was a City fan who smashed the window.
Away from the ground and the Etihad Campus.
So nothing to do with City.
Yet City release a statement.
It won’t surprise me if City paid for a new coach window, and also paid for the coach to be serviced as well.
They threw a blanket over all the songs teams sing about them by appealing for fans to not sing about ‘stadium disasters’ and the FA/PL making it an actual offence backed that up. The club had little choice than to issue an apology, didn’t SOS have a go at rendering songs like feed the scousers etc a hate crime? the sheer fact they have weaponised Heysel is the most audacious grief seeking diversion plots I’ve ever seen, I wonder what the Italians make if it? It’s akin to murdering somebody (everyone knows you’ve done it) and you turn up to the funeral, then cry at the grave and throw flowers inAlways the victim is about lfc making themselves the victim, in everything! Karius, ramos, the bus, Paris, snow, suarez being racist, etc etc..
THEY'RE turning it into a song about hillsborough, actually making themselves a victim in the process.
What next, the phrase "bin dippers" to be banned? Singing "they're shit" to be banned!
It's all so insidious and actually only serves to trivialise the deaths at hillsborough, I mean they're now using it as a diversion tactic. When will that stop!
Times change with songs and I see that it is difficult not to be considered offensive but I believe we should just let the Victims song go.OK let's stop singing 'always the victims' but what next ? I remember the 'Allez' song that a few lads switched around. Suddenly battered in the streets wasn't about a Champs league final, it was about Sean Cox. Every song, every comment, hell every thought that they don't like they want stopped.
There is a reason fans sing always the victims.
And when they complain about the next song and the song after that ? Where do we stop ?There is no point crying about the club statement. The fact is LFC think the Victims chant is about Hillsborough so that means it can’t be sung without getting a load of shit in the media. And if its like Saturday then the club will continue to have to write apologies.
No matter what we think it’s about it shouldn’t be sung.
We can argue quite rightly all day that it’s nothing to do with Hillsborough - but the minute they claimed it was a reference to Hillsborough it can’t be sung without the shit in the media and public apologies.
If we had the same kind of media control that they do it might be different.
Total fake news from the Echo. Why did the Liverpool players enter City's technical area after we scored? What did Tsimikas say to Pep with his hands cupped? Why did the three LFC players go right up close to Pep? Why did Klopp make no complaint against Pep? Do these morons at the Echo think we are all fucking stupid?The Liverpool Echo’s report, by Tom Cavilla, on Pep celeabrating a City goal ‘inside his technical area’.
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Always the victim is about lfc making themselves the victim, in everything! Karius, ramos, the bus, Paris, snow, suarez being racist, etc etc..
THEY'RE turning it into a song about hillsborough, actually making themselves a victim in the process.
What next, the phrase "bin dippers" to be banned? Singing "they're shit" to be banned!
It's all so insidious and actually only serves to trivialise the deaths at hillsborough, I mean they're now using it as a diversion tactic. When will that stop!
No punishment for the opposing players entering our technical area either?The Liverpool Echo’s report, by Tom Cavilla, on Pep celeabrating a City goal ‘inside his technical area’.
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Agree 100 per cent. It is just deflecting from our brilliant team and giving ammunition to our enemies. We should also ditch the "murderers" song. Heysel happened in 1986. We didn't sing anything about it till about five years ago so I don't think we should use it as a weapon almost 40 years after the event.Times change with songs and I see that it is difficult not to be considered offensive but I believe we should just let the Victims song go.
They were starting a candlelight vigil.Total fake news from the Echo. Why did the Liverpool players enter City's technical area after we scored? What did Tsimikas say to Pep with his hands cupped? Why did the three LFC players go right up close to Pep? Why did Klopp make no complaint against Pep? Do these morons at the Echo think we are all fucking stupid?
And what about when they complain about the next song? Which they will. And then the one after that?Times change with songs and I see that it is difficult not to be considered offensive but I believe we should just let the Victims song go.