North Stand Construction Discussion

[the blue panther]

Keep at it mate. Behind you all the way. I appreciate that my views are not the only ones (although they are the correct ones!)

Market it hard as The New Kippax
Singing area upper tier.
1894 right at the back
Discounted tickets and first refusal on season tickets for relocation from the existing singing areas

Job done ;-)

Why not just The Kippax?
That isn't my preference though.
I'd name it after the man who really changed our recent history;
the Aguero - not end, or stand;
just "The Aguero."
Immortalised, as he should be - just like King Colin.

 

[Blue Smarties]

Hi Everyone.

1894 are surveying fans about the North Stand extension.

City contacted us and told us they want the extended North Stand to be an atmospheric 'end' where our singers can congregate. We will most likely work with City (and other fan groups) to try and make this a success.

The survey should take less than 5 minutes to complete.

It's specifically about singing/atmosphere. If you're not too interested in that, please ignore it.

We are using the feedback to help us formulate an official response to City with our suggestions.

Please click here to complete the survey.

Thanks!

Did it earlier. Said I wasn’t arsed where it was as long as it’s properly done with external support to locate the best section for the acoustics. No point moving if it’s going to be a pissing in the wind exercise.

Also said it would be good for the club to give back to the fans - allow proper flags to drape over L2 and offer half price ale before a certain time to encourage people onto the concourse (similar to what we did at the start of last season to help the turnstiles).

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

Done. The fact that the lower tier is being suggested as one of the options for a singing area worries me though. I have concerns that 1894 are too worried about flags and displays and not what matters: noise and singing.

Wouldn’t flags, displays and tifos be much more impressive in level 2 though. Visually you could create much bigger displays and involve more people.

 

[WillT]

Did this earlier - top priorities for me are safe standing and singing stand in upper tier and (selfishly?) letting family stand ST holders stay if they want to be part of the atmosphere.

 

[SiMCFC]

If we truly want it as the closest thing we are going to see an 'ultras stand' there should be no kids in there whatsoever, imo, better out of the way, wants to be loud and proud, flags, constant noise, nobody moaning about songs with swearing in which is what I've experienced previously in the current Family Stand, just a bit of a roll back that is designed to rally the troops.

 

[PhillyBasedBlue]

Not really that, but suspected that would crop up lol

And one day the PL won't be what it once was.

MLS isn't a bad league to watch, just a shame most games are on at silly times for UK fans

Silly times in the US too.

 

[Manchester33]

You've got your work cut out with the no hospitality bit unfortunately.

We raised this point in our first meeting - there will definitely be more hospitality, just not in the north stand (expect developments in East Stand).

 

[Manchester33]

Does anybody know if the boxes are staying in the North stand?

No - the current plan is to remove them.

 

[bluesmith]

We raised this point in our first meeting - there will definitely be more hospitality, just not in the north stand (expect developments in East Stand).

If that's come from the club I'd ask them to show you the plans for the north stand.

 

[Manchester33]

Wouldn’t flags, displays and tifos be much more impressive in level 2 though. Visually you could create much bigger displays and involve more people.

Tifos yes, definitely.

It’s more a logistical problem though. Very simply put - anything in Level has to go up. Also, the further up you go the less space/storage there is.

These are all easily solvable issues, but they do need resolving/considering.

 

[Manchester33]

If that's come from the club I'd ask them to show you the plans for the north stand.

We have, and they have.

….proposed plans at least.

 

[blueparrot]

If that's come from the club I'd ask them to show you the plans for the north stand.

I know we’ve only seen rough sketches, but from those the only place I can see what might be hospitality is buit into the back under the roof, which would be fine and not impact the actual stand. Or is this wrong ?

 

[HelloCity]

Does anybody know if the boxes are staying in the North stand?

Keeping them and then people in the extended 2nd tier have to sit behind the boxes.

 

[Manchester33]

Thanks to everyone who has filled in the survey so far.

A reminder you can take part in the survey by clicking here

Microsoft Forms

forms.office.com

We’ve had hundreds of responses since this morning!

 

[bluesmith]

I know we’ve only seen rough sketches, but from those the only place I can see what might be hospitality is buit into the back under the roof, which would be fine and not impact the actual stand. Or is this wrong ?

There are definitely 2 areas in the current design one top and one middle. The seats for the top area are at the top of the stand unsure for the other.

 

[jrb]

Amongst other suggestions, removing the LED boards and the dreadful and tacky electronic flags, not putting them back on when NSL2 is expanded and completed, and allowing fans to hang ‘their own flags and banners’ along the front of NSL2, not the clubs banners and flags. Some of you will remember the Blue Alliance group.

This…..



Or this…..

 

[bluesmith]

We have, and they have.

….proposed plans at least.

What do you think the seats below the skybar are?

 

[HelloCity]

I believe hospitality will move to the back of north stand level 2.

I spoke with Danny Vandrewala recently (head of hospitality), who said hospitality levels are being cut for the next few seasons which would suggest the boxes on level two are going during construction.

There’s a sky bar at the very back of the stand above the 2nd tier itself. Could see entry being partly sold as part of a hospitality package alongside the joined hotel.

 

[LEXSTARproject]

The survey aims to get a more general view from the wider fanbase, which will shape 1894's stance on the North Stand Expansion.

Of the dozen or so people who 'run' 1894, it's a mixed bag of opinions. I personally want to focus on SSL2 all the way (near the back to orchestrate the singing); others don't want to be that far away from the pitch, and, as you said, others want to focus more on flags/displays (which naturally are easier in Level 1).

We didn't want to make firm decisions until we had canvassed opinions, and we will genuinely use the results in our decision-making (so all I can say is thank you for having your say, and I'd implore anyone else who has strong views to share theirs).

We also need to consider that City will have their own plans, and there are certain things that we 'need' them to pull through on to make any of this work (for example, if there's rail seating/no hospitality/fair prices etc). Having this data will help us back up our requests to them.

Well done @Manchester33 to help tell people who you are etc, it would be good The 1894 to have socials and a website. You stated earlier that you want all fans together having this would help massively https://the3252.net/ This could be a simple way of getting all different people who want to sing together in the one place by simply having a join now button on a website

 

[Jesus H Gabz]

I’ve said it before, the best way to solve any potential problems with acoustics & sound travelling, whilst also solving the issue of the club wanting more corporate, is to build corporate boxes under the lip of tier 1 (see pic) that would allow sound to travel up no problem, instead of it being suppressed under the overhang, and actually make the two stands feel more connected. Those boxes would would make a mint in that location given the view and history at that end, easily sellable, unfortunately more corporate is the only way we’re going to get subsidies on tickets