Chelsea Thread - 2022/23 | Pochettino confirmed as new manager

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paska said:
There isn’t one, and that’s exactly it. No point saying “despite all of the obstacles”, when those obstacles are the defining point of the season and can’t be dismissed or ignored.

No manager on earth could have polished that turd, and that he even made it appear like chocolate mousse every so often is maybe more than most could have done.
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I don’t think it was too much to expect slightly better results. I’m pretty sure he would still be in the job if we were 6th or 7th which would still be massively underperforming but we would have at least won enough games to say okay fine let’s see what he can do when the squad is trimmed and he’s had a preseason. Are you saying 11th place in April is the ceiling for this team because we have a bloated squad?
 
Vialli98 said:
I think that is oversimplifying it a little too much. You’re right that we’re only a win or two extra from being 7th but that’s crazy in itself that we’re 6 points behind 7th place at this stage of the season. We’re out of both domestics cups at the first hurdle, and we barely put up a fight in one of them.

I do feel Potter was dealt a very tough hand and I feel very sorry for him but ultimately we’re 11th in April with no real sign of any progress.

Matt Law said the decision to sack was ultimately made by the two sporting directors, one of whom is Paul Winstanley who followed Potter from Brighton to Chelsea. They made the recommendation to the owners who acted on that recommendation.

I hope they don’t rush the process this time. The last time Potter was hired 24 hours after Tuchel was sacked and it just Boehly and Eghbali making that decision. This time they put people in place to navigate the hiring process so hopefully it yields a better outcome this time .
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Yes, you may be right. You are closer to it than I am. As you have probably guessed, I just think Boehly is a turd, and he doesn't get enough of the blame. But what the heck, it's not my problem, I just hope he crashes and burns. Nothing personal with Chelsea per se, but collateral damage I suppose if I am lucky.
 
paska said:
Doesn’t mean he can’t when the time comes. Pep is going nowhere, thank fxck. We have plenty more of this journey together, both parties on Cloud 9.

Which means in the mean time, any potential future suitors that are already around will indeed be taking other jobs, and that’s fine.
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I'm not expecting him to sit around and wait for Pep to leave because hopefully that's a long way off but I feel like we might be less likely to appoint him if he's already managed a top six side in the Premier League.

I suppose that could work the other way though as you could say having Premier League experience would make him more attractive to us. The only thing is, if he goes there and is a success then he may not want to leave or manage another PL club further down the line.

Anyway like you say, Guardiola is here for at least a couple more years yet so it's not worth thinking too far ahead. I'm just glad I don't have the job of choosing his successor as Pep is a pretty impossible act to follow.
 
David El Mago Silva said:
I'm not expecting him to sit around and wait for Pep to leave because hopefully that's a long way off but I feel like we might be less likely to appoint him if he's already managed a top six side in the Premier League.

I suppose that could work the other way though as you could say having Premier League experience would make him more attractive to us. The only thing is, if he goes there and is a success then he may not want to leave or manage another PL club further down the line.

Anyway like you say, Guardiola is here for at least a couple more years yet so it's not worth thinking too far ahead. I'm just glad I don't have the job of choosing his successor as Pep is a pretty impossible act to follow.
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Choosing his successor is easy. Being his successor is the tough one :)
 
halfcenturyup said:
Yes, you may be right. You are closer to it than I am. As you have probably guessed, I just think Boehly is a turd, and he doesn't get enough of the blame. But what the heck, it's not my problem, I just hope he crashes and burns. Nothing personal with Chelsea per se, but collateral damage I suppose if I am lucky.
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I don’t have a problem with Boehly specifically but I think letting the sporting directors handle the process now is maybe him admitting he got it all kinds of wrong last time. He’s stepped back from handling transfers which is great and he’s now stepping back even more to let the sporting directors handle this process. It’s like the operations structure is almost complete and he can now let the experts do what they were hired to do.


But I will say there are quite a few Chelsea who share your feelings on Boehly.
 
Vialli98 said:
I don’t have a problem with Boehly specifically but I think letting the sporting directors handle the process now is maybe him admitting he got it all kinds of wrong last time. He’s stepped back from handling transfers which is great and he’s now stepping back even more to let the sporting directors handle this process. It’s like the operations structure is almost complete and he can now let the experts do what they were hired to do.


But I will say there are quite a few Chelsea who share your feelings on Boehly.
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sacked a highly respected coach, a coach that has been employed by one of the top european powers since
employed a high potential manager given him a 10m pa 5 year contract,because he was the future vision and culture change, then lost patience
overspent 600m on a raft of random players
touch and go with ffp
struggling to get into the top four and the money that means.
christ knows what your wage bill is a year

he has done well in the 11 months or so hes been in charge , he must have because you don't have a problem,surely he should of set a few alarm bells off inside you
 

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Chopper2115 said:
Been a awful move for him, had gone there expecting to hit the high he had with us and he has been awful for them scored a few goals but nothing special, had his house burgled in London while he was away with England and had injuries when he hardly ever got a injury for us.
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It just goes to prove the grass isn't always greener.
 
Vialli98 said:
I don’t think it was too much to expect slightly better results. I’m pretty sure he would still be in the job if we were 6th or 7th which would still be massively underperforming but we would have at least won enough games to say okay fine let’s see what he can do when the squad is trimmed and he’s had a preseason. Are you saying 11th place in April is the ceiling for this team because we have a bloated squad?
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This is the ceiling for this squad at this time under any manager, yeah pretty much. The club is in too much of a mess. If you can’t even run a proper training session due to the huge squad size, how do expect to compete across a full season?

If anyone has their heads screwed on at that place, there will be a firesale at the club in the summer and that will go some length towards sorting out a lot of it’s problems.
 
paska said:
This is the ceiling for this squad at this time under any manager, yeah pretty much. The club is in too much of a mess. If you can’t even run a proper training session due to the huge squad size, how do expect to compete across a full season?

If anyone has their heads screwed on at that place, there will be a firesale at the club in the summer and that will go some length towards sorting out a lot of it’s problems.
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Chelsea have been in disarray for so long now people don't take much notice of them. You mention the name in a footballing context and people stifle a yawn: managerial merry-go-round, incredible amounts of money thrown around in order to attract the big names, but you always feel they are teetering on the cusp of disaster.

The days of the Kremlin may be over, but I feel years and years of mis-management are going to catch up with them.
 
paska said:
This is the ceiling for this squad at this time under any manager, yeah pretty much. The club is in too much of a mess. If you can’t even run a proper training session due to the huge squad size, how do expect to compete across a full season?

If anyone has their heads screwed on at that place, there will be a firesale at the club in the summer and that will go some length towards sorting out a lot of it’s problems.
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I guess I disagree. I don't see any reasonable excuse to be sitting in 11th. The task wasn't even to compete. A transition season was expected and accepted but there is still a certain below you just cannot fall. If we were sitting in the bottom 3, would you still be saying 'oh well nothing Potter or any other manager can do with such a bloated squad'?
 
Vialli98 said:
I guess I disagree. I don't see any reasonable excuse to be sitting in 11th. The task wasn't even to compete. A transition season was expected and accepted but there is still a certain below you just cannot fall. If we were sitting in the bottom 3, would you still be saying 'oh well nothing Potter or any other manager can do with such a bloated squad'?
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Will let you know at the end of the season :)
 
Thought Enrique would be our next manager
Tad dissapoinring this
 
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