Chelsea Thread - 2022/23 | Pochettino confirmed as new manager

[oakiecokie]

Fukin he'll that was shite .
If we had spent that much money and looked that shit we would be torn to shreds by the gutter snipes

Strangely enough I`ve just been reading a very good article by Phil McNulty from the Beebs website and he really has gone to town on the owners but in a very constructive way.

 

[Xhavenjoe]

Reckon Todd is, as well.

Should be called Toddger

 

[raybo]

Dismantled the entire structure behind a successful club and installed himself as interim technical director.

Spent it all in one window on random players on long-term contracts in a scattergun approach, building a squad too big to even have proper training sessions or change in the appropriate facilities.

Claimed to be building a project and not acted accordingly.

Instructed Tuchel to try a 4-4-3 formation and tried to teach an expert his own craft.

Already talking about changing the laws of the game when he’s been here five minutes.

Yes, we spent too, but we did it slowly and sensibly, we did not act like “kids in a candy shop”, there is no comparison. Roman spent big too, but you can’t even compare Roman to Todd, because just simply spending is not the only defining point of any of the three chiefs.

Ted Lasso

 

[SebastianBlue]

Ted Lasso

Evil Ted Lasso

 

[paska]

Evil Ted Lasso

With less success, less knowledge, and less luck

 

[Vialli98]

Dismantled the entire structure behind a successful club and installed himself as interim technical director.

Spent it all in one window on random players on long-term contracts in a scattergun approach, building a squad too big to even have proper training sessions or change in the appropriate facilities.

Claimed to be building a project and not acted accordingly.

Instructed Tuchel to try a 4-4-3 formation and tried to teach an expert his own craft.

Already talking about changing the laws of the game when he’s been here five minutes.

Yes, we spent too, but we did it slowly and sensibly, we did not act like “kids in a candy shop”, there is no comparison. Roman spent big too, but you can’t even compare Roman to Todd, because just simply spending is not the only defining point of any of the three chiefs.

I asked for reasons why he was so disliked. If an owner did all the stuff you mentioned at another club, I’d be slightly amused but I wouldn’t be able to muster any more than mild indifference.

 

[paska]

I asked for reasons why he was so disliked. If an owner did all the stuff you mentioned at another club, I’d be slightly amused but I wouldn’t be able to muster any more than mild indifference.

Well that’s you, but a lot of us find that list to make him an odious owner and not suited for owning a part of our treasured game.

If our owners had done those things, a lot of us would be calling for their heads.

As it’s at a rival, yes, it is slightly amusing, but as a football fan in general I don’t want to see people like that involved.

Look at the Glazers, does anyone look at them with mild indifference? They’ve made some similar decisions on a less catastrophic and less drastic level, and are some of the most hated owners in the game - rightly so - by fans of all clubs.

 

[SebastianBlue]

With less success, less knowledge, and less luck

And far less charisma.

 

[dublinblue12]

Genuine question, why don't they ever seem to play all the players they bought, only Fernandez seems to start regular? I Maybe injuries but I can t remember seeing the likes of Madueke, d Fofana, and Zakaria at all this season along with the likes of Sterling, Aubameyang who only seem to play the odd game (latter for obvious reasons) - are those first 3 just prospects who will be loaned out?

 

[wolviedinho]

Well that’s you, but a lot of us find that list to make him an odious owner and not suited for owning a part of our treasured game.

If our owners had done those things, a lot of us would be calling for their heads.

As it’s at a rival, yes, it is slightly amusing, but as a football fan in general I don’t want to see people like that involved.

Look at the Glazers, does anyone look at them with mild indifference? They’ve made some similar decisions on a less catastrophic and less drastic level, and are some of the most hated owners in the game - rightly so - by fans of all clubs.

I love the glazers. Let’s not get carried away now -:)

 

[TonyM]

Everyone gives the glaziers shit but they are forever backing their managers with big money signings and huge wages. What else do they want?

 

[Silva&Silva]

Everyone gives the glaziers shit but they are forever backing their managers with big money signings and huge wages. What else do they want?

Oil money.

 

[paska]

Everyone gives the glaziers shit but they are forever backing their managers with big money signings and huge wages. What else do they want?

Football people to make the decisions on things like transfers and hirings (Woodwood is gone now, but he was behind majority of signings for years)

To have actually not have spent so much, and instead spent wiser.

To not have taken over using debt and transferred that debt onto the club.

Also, to not have a literally rotting, rat-infested home. The big ones with two legs and a full kit are one thing but the furry, cheese-munching kind a bit different ;)

 

[TonyM]

Football people to make the decisions on things like transfers and hirings (Woodwood is gone now, but he was behind majority of signings for years)

To have actually not have spent so much, and instead spent wiser.

To not have taken over using debt and transferred that debt onto the club.

Also, to not have a literally rotting, rat-infested home. The big ones with two legs and a full kit are one thing but the furry, cheese-munching kind a bit different ;)

Yes they didn't have a good director of football, but who had way back when Txiki started to craft his magic.

Maybe it's very difficult to unearth a Txiki? And that's why the Glaziers have been stuck giving managers exactly what they ask for or Chelsea getting exactly what Boehly wanted? They just don't have someone as genius. So in that case can you blame them. They are only trying their best, the poor sods.

 

[TonyM]

Just one more point re owners, Mansour has been unbelievably good ... but he and we are reaping the rewards of the people he appointed.

It seems to me that the team we have at boardroom level are unique. It's like having Mozart, Beethoven and ... em Elvis working together in perfect harmony.

There's a template to follow but is there that level of talent available to fill it?

 

[SebastianBlue]

Everyone gives the glaziers shit but they are forever backing their managers with big money signings and huge wages. What else do they want?

Not to mortgage their club to the hilt, base every decision on how you can increase the valuation of the enterprise and meet current debt servicing obligations, then look to sell the club to the highest bidder, most of which plan to structure the acquisition via another heavily leveraged buyout.

You know, the basics.

 

[Dobsy]

I mean it’s hard to give you a rebuttal that come across as blind faith when we’re sitting in 11th place having the awful season we’re having but I just don’t share your negative outlook on my club or our future.

I don’t what Boehly has done to be so disliked. Yeah spent a lot of money but so have your owners, United and our old owner. It’s neither here nor there though. You’re allowed to think he’s an arrogant twat :)

I admire your positivity.

From the outside in I see ...

Arsenal stable and set for a CL money boost, which is a bit of a disaster for other London clubs.
United more stable than at any time since the Glazers took over
Newcastle acting sensibly.
City are looking quite good.
Liverpool will be competitive again when they actually have a midfield next season
Spurs are a mess tbf.

Chelsea - will finish 14th or 15th and have spaffed their transfer budget on a mixed bunch, of who the most important are mostly veterans past their peak.

Honestly I don't think people are realising that Chelsea have gone through a paradigm shift. It's not necessarily a blip. I'd be concerned that he's going to make you the new Everton.

 

[blueinsa]

Boehlyball™

Yep, this is on him and his scattergun approach to something he had no clue about.

 

[blueinsa]

Genuine question, why don't they ever seem to play all the players they bought

You can only play 11 mate lol ;-)

 

[KS55]

Strangely enough I`ve just been reading a very good article by Phil McNulty from the Beebs website and he really has gone to town on the owners but in a very constructive way.

I have read that article. You’re right it is good. I had to check it really was written by McNulty.