It's Quiet 18 - Wanna ring the bell?

[Xhavenjoe]

don't know if you guys noticed this but former NYCFC striker and current Giriona striker Taty Castellanos scored 4 goals against Real Madrid

I think he is still a NYCFC player, just on loan at moment.

 

[TheBlueCat]

Giving phillips time like mahrez,grealish,rodri was not great in first season and look at them now

The key difference between Mahrez, Grealish, Rodri etc and Phillips is that Pep played them even though they did not look great. Phillips does not get a game because he is not considered good enough.

 

[aguero93:20]

Hmmm.. maybe it could happen if West Ham and Leeds don't.

He's on our books for about £40m, if they match that I've no objection.

 

[Kamaro011]

The key difference between Mahrez, Grealish, Rodri etc and Phillips is that Pep played them even though they did not look great. Phillips does not get a game because he is not considered good enough.

Ake didn't play alot in his first season, many people considered him back then wasted purchase not knowing a significant amount of injury in single season can affect thing.

What if any of those you mentioned above get injury like Ake and Philips in their first season, I'm pretty sure the reaction from fanbase like here for example will be exactly same like philips once they got back to the squad not seeing them get amount of play like Philips and already judged them not good enough if Pep didn't play them constantly, not knowing maybe Pep just doesn't want to distrupt thing to keep momentum winning at the most critical part of season not have time to play philips in lone dm position the most difficult position in the most complex system of play designed by Pep ever.

 

[Lucidinho]

Man City 2023/24 Squad

GK:

Ederson

James Trafford

Scott Carson

RB:

Rico Lewis

Kyle Walker

RCB:

Manuel Akanji

John Stones

LCB:

Ruben Dias

Kim Min-Jae

LB:

Nathan Ake

Josko Gvardiol

Sergio Gomez

CDM:

Rodri

Kalvih Phillips

CM:

Jude Bellingham

Bernardo Silva

James McAtee

CAM:

Kevin De Bruyne

Gabriel Veiga

Oscar Bobb

RW:

Riyhad Mahrez

James Maddison

Dire Mebedue

ST:

Erling Haaland

Julian Alvarez

RW:

Jack Grealish

Phil Foden



In:

Jude Bellingham-125M

Josko Gvardiol-80M

Kim Min Jae- 40M

Gabriel Veiga:40M

James Maddison- 40M

Cost-305M



Out:

Aymeric Laporte-50M

Stefan Ortega- 20M

Joao Cancelo- 50M

Zack Steffen- 5M

Tommy Doyle- 25M

Liam Delap-10M

Yangel Herrara- 10M

Issa Kabore- 5M

Other Fodder-30M

Profit: 185M



Net Spend- -120M Thoughts?

 

[Keeper!]

He's on our books for about £40m, if they match that I've no objection.

100%, he will have many suitors, money back at the very least with no pay off.

 

[Kamaro011]

Man City 2023/24 Squad

GK:

Ederson

James Trafford

Scott Carson

RB:

Rico Lewis

Kyle Walker

RCB:

Manuel Akanji

John Stones

LCB:

Ruben Dias

Kim Min-Jae

LB:

Nathan Ake

Josko Gvardiol

Sergio Gomez

CDM:

Rodri

Kalvih Phillips

CM:

Jude Bellingham

Bernardo Silva

James McAtee

CAM:

Kevin De Bruyne

Gabriel Veiga

Oscar Bobb

RW:

Riyhad Mahrez

James Maddison

Dire Mebedue

ST:

Erling Haaland

Julian Alvarez

RW:

Jack Grealish

Phil Foden



In:

Jude Bellingham-125M

Josko Gvardiol-80M

Kim Min Jae- 40M

Gabriel Veiga:40M

James Maddison- 40M

Cost-305M



Out:

Aymeric Laporte-50M

Stefan Ortega- 20M

Joao Cancelo- 50M

Zack Steffen- 5M

Tommy Doyle- 25M

Liam Delap-10M

Yangel Herrara- 10M

Issa Kabore- 5M

Other Fodder-30M

Profit: 185M



Net Spend- -120M Thoughts?

I think Gabriel Veiga is confirmed to Madrid, one of poster already post the link.

 

[birchwoodgingerste]

Man City 2023/24 Squad

GK:

Ederson

James Trafford

Scott Carson

RB:

Rico Lewis

Kyle Walker

RCB:

Manuel Akanji

John Stones

LCB:

Ruben Dias

Kim Min-Jae

LB:

Nathan Ake

Josko Gvardiol

Sergio Gomez

CDM:

Rodri

Kalvih Phillips

CM:

Jude Bellingham

Bernardo Silva

James McAtee

CAM:

Kevin De Bruyne

Gabriel Veiga

Oscar Bobb

RW:

Riyhad Mahrez

James Maddison

Dire Mebedue

ST:

Erling Haaland

Julian Alvarez

RW:

Jack Grealish

Phil Foden



In:

Jude Bellingham-125M

Josko Gvardiol-80M

Kim Min Jae- 40M

Gabriel Veiga:40M

James Maddison- 40M

Cost-305M



Out:

Aymeric Laporte-50M

Stefan Ortega- 20M

Joao Cancelo- 50M

Zack Steffen- 5M

Tommy Doyle- 25M

Liam Delap-10M

Yangel Herrara- 10M

Issa Kabore- 5M

Other Fodder-30M

Profit: 185M



Net Spend- -120M Thoughts?

Try and sleep blue !:))

 

[Keeper!]

Man City 2023/24 Squad

GK:

Ederson

James Trafford

Scott Carson

RB:

Rico Lewis

Kyle Walker

RCB:

Manuel Akanji

John Stones

LCB:

Ruben Dias

Kim Min-Jae

LB:

Nathan Ake

Josko Gvardiol

Sergio Gomez

CDM:

Rodri

Kalvih Phillips

CM:

Jude Bellingham

Bernardo Silva

James McAtee

CAM:

Kevin De Bruyne

Gabriel Veiga

Oscar Bobb

RW:

Riyhad Mahrez

James Maddison

Dire Mebedue

ST:

Erling Haaland

Julian Alvarez

RW:

Jack Grealish

Phil Foden



In:

Jude Bellingham-125M

Josko Gvardiol-80M

Kim Min Jae- 40M

Gabriel Veiga:40M

James Maddison- 40M

Cost-305M



Out:

Aymeric Laporte-50M

Stefan Ortega- 20M

Joao Cancelo- 50M

Zack Steffen- 5M

Tommy Doyle- 25M

Liam Delap-10M

Yangel Herrara- 10M

Issa Kabore- 5M

Other Fodder-30M

Profit: 185M



Net Spend- -120M Thoughts?

Delap 10M not a chance, Cancelo 50M not a chance

And why do we need 2 cb's?

Gvardiol is the one we want

 

[SBUDA_MALUDA21]

Man City 2023/24 Squad

GK:

Ederson

James Trafford

Scott Carson

RB:

Rico Lewis

Kyle Walker

RCB:

Manuel Akanji

John Stones

LCB:

Ruben Dias

Kim Min-Jae

LB:

Nathan Ake

Josko Gvardiol

Sergio Gomez

CDM:

Rodri

Kalvih Phillips

CM:

Jude Bellingham

Bernardo Silva

James McAtee

CAM:

Kevin De Bruyne

Gabriel Veiga

Oscar Bobb

RW:

Riyhad Mahrez

James Maddison

Dire Mebedue

ST:

Erling Haaland

Julian Alvarez

RW:

Jack Grealish

Phil Foden



In:

Jude Bellingham-125M

Josko Gvardiol-80M

Kim Min Jae- 40M

Gabriel Veiga:40M

James Maddison- 40M

Cost-305M



Out:

Aymeric Laporte-50M

Stefan Ortega- 20M

Joao Cancelo- 50M

Zack Steffen- 5M

Tommy Doyle- 25M

Liam Delap-10M

Yangel Herrara- 10M

Issa Kabore- 5M

Other Fodder-30M

Profit: 185M



Net Spend- -120M Thoughts?

So you not bringing in any GK ?
and why sell Ortega he has some good stats

 

[bluemystery]

I don't get why every fan thinks the only way of getting good players is by buying them. Would rather develop a good few from the academy and stick them in the first-team squad. No point constantly throwing money about

 

[bluemystery]

Delap 10M not a chance, Cancelo 50M not a chance

And why do we need 2 cb's?

Gvardiol is the one we w

Man City 2023/24 Squad

GK:

Ederson

James Trafford

Scott Carson

RB:

Rico Lewis

Kyle Walker

RCB:

Manuel Akanji

John Stones

LCB:

Ruben Dias

Kim Min-Jae

LB:

Nathan Ake

Josko Gvardiol

Sergio Gomez

CDM:

Rodri

Kalvih Phillips

CM:

Jude Bellingham

Bernardo Silva

James McAtee

CAM:

Kevin De Bruyne

Gabriel Veiga

Oscar Bobb

RW:

Riyhad Mahrez

James Maddison

Dire Mebedue

ST:

Erling Haaland

Julian Alvarez

RW:

Jack Grealish

Phil Foden



In:

Jude Bellingham-125M

Josko Gvardiol-80M

Kim Min Jae- 40M

Gabriel Veiga:40M

James Maddison- 40M

Cost-305M



Out:

Aymeric Laporte-50M

Stefan Ortega- 20M

Joao Cancelo- 50M

Zack Steffen- 5M

Tommy Doyle- 25M

Liam Delap-10M

Yangel Herrara- 10M

Issa Kabore- 5M

Other Fodder-30M

Profit: 185M



Net Spend- -120M Thoughts?

Veiga off to madrid. Bernardo won't be here next season. Keep Ortega and bin Carson

 

[FantasyIreland]

I don't get why every fan thinks the only way of getting good players is by buying them. Would rather develop a good few from the academy and stick them in the first-team squad. No point constantly throwing money about

That would be very organic......Which one's are you thinking?

 

[bluemystery]

That would be very organic......Which one's are you thinking?

I like Borges and Bobb to be honest, but the main point of this post was because I see too many 'fans' on social media saying to spend X amount on player Y. I get football is mostly about money but I think we should do something similar to Benfica and Southampton and just develop our own players but not sell them for profit. Think we've already seen with PSG that throwing money about constantly isn't the definition of ultimate success.

 

[FantasyIreland]

I like Borges and Bobb to be honest, but the main point of this post was because I see too many 'fans' on social media saying to spend X amount on player Y. I get football is mostly about money but I think we should do something similar to Benfica and Southampton and just develop our own players but not sell them for profit. Think we've already seen with PSG that throwing money about constantly isn't the definition of ultimate success.

I'd love to see it too,so i'm in agreement to an extent.......i think the problem arises with the 'middle ground'.The clubs you mention can develop players without too much consequence or disruption to their ambitions (although that has gone tits up this season for Southampton).

We have to maintain a level,we have to have a squad of players that are reliable and consistent and have the experience when,like the situation we are in now,we need to dig deep and and find the way to keep winning.We simply can't afford to be babysitting or developing youngsters when so much is on the line,hence why we have chosen the current methods of loan and/or buyback.

We need to bring in players that can usually walk into the environment and perform having proved it elsewhere.It's a 'price we pay' for being so successful.

As for the two you mention.......i agree,top talents,and both need that experience i speak of next season.

 

[bluemystery]

I'd love to see it too,so i'm in agreement to an extent.......i think the problem arises with the 'middle ground'.The clubs you mention can develop players without too much consequence or disruption to their ambitions (although that has gone tits up this season for Southampton).

We have to maintain a level,we have to have a squad of players that are reliable and consistent and have the experience when,like the situation we are in now,we need to dig deep and and find the way to keep winning.We simply can't afford to be babysitting or developing youngsters when so much is on the line,hence why we have chosen the current methods of loan and/or buyback.

We need to bring in players that can usually walk into the environment and perform having proved it elsewhere.It's a 'price we pay' for being so successful.

As for the two you mention.......i agree,top talents,and both need that experience i speak of next season.

I agree with the middle ground point. Hard to balance it without going one way or another. You're right with the third paragraph in relation to Lavia and Larios (i think) but I wouldn't be averse to Pep possibly doing something similar to Van Gaal when Rashford was thrown in on his debut vs Midtjylland when he was unheard of.

 

[FantasyIreland]

I agree with the middle ground point. Hard to balance it without going one way or another. You're right with the third paragraph in relation to Lavia and Larios (i think) but I wouldn't be averse to Pep possibly doing something similar to Van Gaal when Rashford was thrown in on his debut vs Midtjylland when he was unheard of.

Edozie and Bazunu too.

Lavia has stood out and Bazunu has done great,but all of them have shown their inexperience at crucial times throughout this season,and that strategy may now end up costing them dear.

Rashford has worked out brilliantly,but id say he was an act of desperation by Van Gaal,they didn't have much more to lose......and even he has had something of a rollercoaster career so far.

Pep has done ok with Rico this season,Palmer to a lesser dgree,don't forget.

 

[billblu]

I think we have 4 players on loan in the championship that have either been promoted or have a chance to be promoted that other prem teams would be looking to sign .Are they good enough to play for city probably not but think they could do a job 3 nil up for the last 30 minutes and lesser teams in the cups and prem .Would like the Croatian ×2 and the boy wonder from Germany .Maybe shea charles could get the minutes that fat boy gets? I await the barrage of abuse

 

[Keeper!]

Edozie and Bazunu too.

Lavia has stood out and Bazunu has done great,but all of them have shown their inexperience at crucial times throughout this season,and that strategy may now end up costing them dear.

Rashford has worked out brilliantly,but id say he was an act of desperation by Van Gaal,they didn't have much more to lose......and even he has had something of a rollercoaster career so far.

Pep has done ok with Rico this season,Palmer to a lesser dgree,don't forget.

We are at a difficult stage with our young talent, it reminds me of Barca in their prime pre and post Pep.

Incredibly talented young players who were touted as the next great things (Gai Assulin, Bojan Krkic, Isaac Cuenca,Giovani dos Santos etc) yet hardly any of them went on to have great careers.

I think we are doing just fine at this time, the exceptional ones stay with us and learn under Pep (Foden, Palmer, lewis) the others are sold at high prices with the buy back options.

Bob and Borges are superb talents but way off first team level in my opinion.

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[FantasyIreland]

Bob and Borges are superb talents but way off first team level in my opinion.

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I'm not as convinced.....both are hugely talented,but only proper game time will prove their true quality and path.

Hopefully we can keep both and get them out there.