Ref Watch

[kaz7]

I can understand the ref not being sure enough to give it however for VAR not to advise the ref to go look at it...

Sending the ref to the monitor still rarely happens , this is one time they should have told him to re look , if pigmol were being honest and not managing the game they would have given us the pen, bent as fuck, luckily we were too good for them

 

[eyalluvitt]

I’d just like to also point out that this probably should have been a yellow.

Which means Partey could have easily received three yellows in the game. And those are just the incidents I remember.

Just imagine that was Penandes or Rashford, it’s Jesus on the cross nailed on

 

[Bluearmy]

He failed miserably, he should be sacked.

He was very successful. At least 1 pen missed and probably 2 red cards. Would have been 8 or 9 without his input!!

 

[lee one pen]

I would have liked it to have been a penalty as much as anyone, but the laws were interpreted correctly, first by Oliver, and then by VAR. As bizarre as it may look, and as much as many may not like it, it was not a penalty, but a foul on Partey. Incidentally it was the same VAR team that overruled the on field offside decision for Stone's goal, when at 1st glance nobody would have disagreed with the initial offside. So it’s fair to say, that they do have some modicum of knowledge of the laws of the game.

Absolute nonsense mate.Clear penalty all day. Even the Arsenal fans thought so.

 

[Bluearmy]

I would have liked it to have been a penalty as much as anyone, but the laws were interpreted correctly, first by Oliver, and then by VAR. As bizarre as it may look, and as much as many may not like it, it was not a penalty, but a foul on Partey. Incidentally it was the same VAR team that overruled the on field offside decision for Stone's goal, when at 1st glance nobody would have disagreed with the initial offside. So it’s fair to say, that they do have some modicum of knowledge of the laws of the game.

Please explain how Partey playing KDB and not the ball isnt a foul…??

 

[Bluearmy]

richardwondertheref still thinks it wasn’t.

No wonder the games in the mess it is if a supposed qualified ref can watch Partey deliberately play KDB and not the ball and say no penalty. Frightening!!

 

[cleavers]

No, thankfully we were so good we were able to overcome playing a man down for at least the first 20 minutes.

But will we always be?

We already know the answer to that, we've been fucked over by referee's/officials/VAR far too often, luckily last night we were far too good.

 

[burning blue soul]

All except Lee Dixon of Cock Green

And Jim "fucking Jim Beglin" Beglin

 

[cleavers]

He was very successful. At least 1 pen missed and probably 2 red cards. Would have been 8 or 9 without his input!!

I know what you are saying but we should have won by better than 4-1, even ignoring his interventions, thankfully it didn't matter, and for once VAR overuled one of the decisions made.

 

[Bluearmy]

I know what you are saying but we should have won by better than 4-1, even ignoring his interventions, thankfully it didn't matter, and for once VAR overuled one of the decisions made.

True, we missed some great chances also but i cant blame the ref for that ;)

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Please explain how Partey playing KDB and not the ball isnt a foul…??

I'm all ears on this.

 

[CatMan]

Please explain how Partey playing KDB and not the ball isnt a foul…??

He didn't and I have.

 

[CatMan]

Absolute nonsense mate.Clear penalty all day. Even the Arsenal fans thought so.

Neither the Arsenal fans, you, nor I where refereeing and the penalty was not awarded for the reasons I have stated. The laws of the game can be subjective on shielding and fighting for your space, but both Oliver on the field, and the VAR official decided that Partey had won the space and KDB kicked him, and ultimately they are far more experienced than anyone playing or watching last night.

 

[lee one pen]

Neither the Arsenal fans, you, nor I where refereeing and the penalty was not awarded for the reasons I have stated. The laws of the game can be subjective on shielding and fighting for your space, but both Oliver on the field, and the VAR official decided that Partey had won the space and KDB kicked him, and ultimately they are far more experienced than anyone playing or watching last night.

Oliver had an absolute shocker last night mate and Var generally backs the refs decision on that sort of incident.

 

[SebastianBlue]

I found an alternate angle of the Partey-Kev incident that I think the part time refs in the thread may have had access to but we haven’t until now.

I can understand their thinking now, Kev absolutely does Partey from this angle.

 

[CatMan]

I dont want to really keep explaining about Shielding and Playing Distance, but the interpretation last evening was based on Law 12.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

How the fuck is that any different to a keeper diving in and taking a players leg out as he's about to pull the trigger?

 

[Iassel]

Wow, having seen it a second time, I really don't see how anyone can defend Oliver in this situation. No contact with ball, he clearly and intentionally plays Kevin and fouls him. Doesn't matter whether he was trying to block or shield Kevin from the ball. There's no rule saying that you can foul someone as long as you're trying to block them. That's a pen.

As already said, you’re seeing it in slow-motion from the correct angle - Oliver sees it once, at full speed from a completely separate angle and so only sees De Bruyne kick the back of Partey’s leg.

Im no fan of the guy and think it’s crazy that he’s the best we have, but on this decision alone he’s pretty blameless.

I can understand the ref not being sure enough to give it however for VAR not to advise the ref to go look at it...

As Oliver has clearly seen the incident, albeit likely from a bad angle, Coote would need balls of stone to overrule his boss’s directives and recommend Oliver take another look…..and from past experience everyone knows Coote is a coward of a ref.

 

[CatMan]

How the fuck is that any different to a keeper diving in and taking a players leg out as he's about to pull the trigger?

Because Partey got to the playing distance first! It's as simple as that. However obstructive it may look, and as much of a foul it may instinctively feel, the Laws and their interpretation mean that Partey can legally occupy that space immediately in front of the ball before KDB arrives milliseconds later. If the ball was not so close to Partey's foot when he plants it down then I agree it's a penalty. However based on the TV angle from behind the keeper, you can see why VAR agreed with Oliver.

Remember, the laws are not foolproof as Rashford proved at the Swamp, and sadly can be very subjective in their interpretation!

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Because Partey got to the playing distance first! It's as simple as that. However obstructive it may look, and as much of a foul it may instinctively feel, the Laws and their interpretation mean that Partey can legally occupy that space immediately in front of the ball before KDB arrives milliseconds later. If the ball was not so close to Partey's foot when he plants it down then I agree it's a penalty. However based on the TV angle from behind the keeper, you can see why VAR agreed with Oliver.

Remember, the laws are not foolproof as Rashford proved at the Swamp, and sadly can be very subjective in their interpretation!

No he can't occupy a space, just because hes trying to block an attacking player, it's called a trip and it's a foul. If you don't play the ball and you play the man it's a foul all day everyday.