Liverpool Thread - 2022/23

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meeesh said:
The point I'm making is that Arnold wasn't,Henderson was,they are both part of the England set up,and it is the national anthem,which is sang when on duty.

Yesterday was an historic day,that rightly or wrongly should be adhered to especially if you are British.

If flower of Scotland was being played it would have been belted out,so I'm not taking any history lessons from any Scotch on here neither,(not that you are Scotch).

But this song you speak about that we all should be able to get behind,what are your suggestions ?

Timmy Malletts -Yellow polka dot bikini or somert like that ?
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The usual alternatives to GTSK for just England are Land of Hope and Glory or Jerusalem. Whether everyone would get behind them is another question. I’m sure some people would object to whatever is chosen.
 
For years the one thing that’s left me uneasy watching Ingerlund games has been the routine booing of the opposing team’s National Anthem. It’s disrespectful and shows an arrogance that, let’s be honest, our national side don’t really deserve that much.
The dippers constantly making this a crusade of some kind is tiresome and quite frankly boring now added to that the vast majority of their attendances are on the whole any other country NOT scouse then their fan base is on a par with Ingerlund’s supporters.
Ironic? Well fsg are Yanks and they don’t do irony do dey la?
 
I remained seated yesterday as the anthem was being played for something I do not want the country to be, this is 2023 and to still have a monarchy with people kowtowing to someone who is in a position by accident of birth is ridiculous. To then spend >£250m to suit the vanity of this man when, one in four children are living in poverty, people are sleeping on the streets and some have to choose between eat and heat is frankly disgusting. This isn't the tread to discuss the rights and wrongs of a monarchy / republic so I wont However, I have every sympathy of anyone who chooses to peacefully protest and if they want to boo then they have every right, sometimes a protest will offend someone but that's been the case through history.
 
Gordyola said:
I remained seated yesterday as the anthem was being played for something I do not want the country to be, this is 2023 and to still have a monarchy with people kowtowing to someone who is in a position by accident of birth is ridiculous. To then spend >£250m to suit the vanity of this man when, one in four children are living in poverty, people are sleeping on the streets and some have to choose between eat and heat is frankly disgusting. This isn't the tread to discuss the rights and wrongs of a monarchy / republic so I wont However, I have every sympathy of anyone who chooses to peacefully protest and if they want to boo then they have every right, sometimes a protest will offend someone but that's been the case through history.
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You literally just have.
 
Gordyola said:
I remained seated yesterday as the anthem was being played for something I do not want the country to be, this is 2023 and to still have a monarchy with people kowtowing to someone who is in a position by accident of birth is ridiculous. To then spend >£250m to suit the vanity of this man when, one in four children are living in poverty, people are sleeping on the streets and some have to choose between eat and heat is frankly disgusting. This isn't the tread to discuss the rights and wrongs of a monarchy / republic so I wont However, I have every sympathy of anyone who chooses to peacefully protest and if they want to boo then they have every right, sometimes a protest will offend someone but that's been the case through history.
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It’s a fair point but I wonder how many of the crowd at Anfield were booing it in protest at the monarchy or were just doing a “look at us and how edgy we are”.
 
plattlanebenches said:
Wouldn’t be surprised if it’s down to the Irish connection. Either the descendants or the day trippers. We all know they hate the monarchy and we’re overjoyed when the queen died. It’s fuck all to do with the government.
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Yeah, I bet they all got accounts at ancestry.com, and sent saliva samples to get their DNA profiles.
 
ayrshire_blue said:
Wrong. Hibs fans held banners dissenting the whole event. Motherwell and Kilmarnock fans joined in "shove your coronation up your arse". Not just dipperland at all, I'm dismayed that so many people in other places didn't feel brave enough to voice dissent about it when they had the chance. People doing what they're told in fear of being piled on for not obeying their masters.
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That’s just the jocks being jocks. No surprise there.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
In any crowd of tens of thousands of people, there will be many varied views on any given topic. Left and right, Brexit & Remain, Monarchists and Republicans, etc. But I go to football to watch the football, not debate these topics (although I might get involved in discussions about them in the car to or from the game or the pub before or after).

I think I heard a handful of boos at the ground when they played the National Anthem yesterday and I know some people went or stayed on the concourse, but there were many people who belted it out.

I remember when George Best died in 2008, there was an imposed minute's silence at every ground. I didn't agree with that, even though George had
been a regular customer at my mum's café in the mid-1960's, where he came over as a nice, quiet lad. But, great player as he was, it was wrong to impose it on clubs he had no connection with. So I stayed on the concourse but I recall it was pretty well observed at the Etihad. If nothing else, it angered me that he got a liver transplant then did the replacement liver in as well. Someone else might have benefitted from that liver. But I wasn't going do anything so crass as to boo. It wasn't about me.

But this recent manifestation of theirs (and it is recent) on a flimsy pretext is all about them, typifying their cult-like behaviour and their determination to show themselves as victims. And I wonder how many in the crowd at Anfield yesterday who booed it, weren't even British. And if those non-British fans didn't boo it, I wonder what they made of it.
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Didn't we play Liverpool that day? I remember some friends staying on the concourse while I went to my seat, I also seem to remember them booing and disrespecting the silence with the rags getting upset and blaming City fans for it.
 
I think Liverpool fans are entitled to protest about a song where the words and the meaning behind them are unambiguous, namely to reinforce the supremacy of a hereditary position (and system) which represents the beating heart of the establishment (that they feel aggrieved by). I think it would be very difficult to argue (in broad terms) against that being what the words to our national anthem represent, for better or worse. On that basis their protest is based upon a sound factual footing.

What they aren’t entitled to do, is take the far more ambiguous words to another song and ascribe their own interpretation upon it and treat that interpretation as a matter of absolute fact (which is echoed in the media) and then be offended by it. Which is precisely what they do with the ‘always the victims’ ditty. That is wholly different, because it is telling others what the ambiguous words to a song mean, in order to be offended by it.

There are blues on this thread that are failing to appreciate that the latter has given rise to other poster’s feelings on the former, especially given the associated hypocrisy and the inconsistent press coverage of each matter.
 
I doubt many of the match going bin dipping lice have a clue why they boo the national anthem they are just being antagonistic for affect by making everything they can about them and victimisation of their city.
They blame the establishment for what they claim was a managed decline of the region! Did they really expect businesses to invest in a region where crime & militancy are a way of life?
Happy enough to secure the Eurovision song contest though weren’t they
 
ayrshire_blue said:
Haha, except it's you who's missing the entire point. I'm all for respecting others opinions and beliefs. If you or anyone wish to pay respect to a monarchy then go ahead and do so, I respect that, I also respect those of differing views who wish to boo fuck out of it. It's me who understands that respect is a two way street here, not you. Did Brentford fans respect what the scousers wanted? No they fucking didn't.
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I didn't know Nicola Krankie was a blue :)
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
I think Liverpool fans are entitled to protest about a song where the words and the meaning behind them are unambiguous, namely to reinforce the supremacy of a hereditary position (and system) which represents the beating heart of the establishment (that they feel aggrieved by). I think it would be very difficult to argue (in broad terms) against that being what the words to our national anthem represent, for better or worse. On that basis their protest is based upon a sound factual footing.

What they aren’t entitled to do, is take the far more ambiguous words to another song and ascribe their own interpretation upon it and treat that interpretation as a matter of absolute fact (which is echoed in the media) and then be offended by it. Which is precisely what they do with the ‘always the victims’ ditty. That is wholly different, because it is telling others what the ambiguous words to a song mean, in order to be offended by it.

There are blues on this thread that are failing to appreciate that the latter has given rise to other poster’s feelings on the former, especially given the associated hypocrisy and the inconsistent press coverage of each matter.
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Guilty as charged.
 
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