PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[marco]

I think there’s two ways of reading that post mate.

maybe DH,its hard to weed the knobs out these days,sorry to the op if i got it wrong

 

[wolviedinho]

This might be the outcome both parties would be happy with. Drag it out for years and years and years and then a joint statement in very small letters stating the case is closed erm behind closed doors. The premier can’t be blamed for not doing anything and city can claim a victory of sorts. By the time it actually comes around no body will remember what all the fuss was about.

Premier will have tarnished city’s reputation while also appearing competent and appeasing the cartel clubs. More and more likely that this is just the next stage. It has taken them years to get to this point. 10 years from now it will be hidden under the return of Jeremy Kyle or some shit like that.

For City fans, we all want the truth to prevail and the good name of MCFC to be restored. Might not get that if it continues to drag on for 4/5 years.

Meanwhile we clean up for another 10 season -:)

 

[manimanc]

I hope that this nonsense gets shut down before pep leaves us.

Do you mean before Peps contract runs out?

Or do you mean before Pep gets fucked off with everything and off he pops?

Great fishing by the way

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

i think this could be some sort of jiggery pokery going on the premier league sees us get off on a technicality so dont lose face and city dont give a fuck as we are in the clear win win for both

The ‘face saving’ ship sailed away over the horizon the day the PL chose to present their case to the world in clickbait form (115 charges, when really it’s about 8 or 9….I think), without even notifying us. The red shirted press stooges have then played a part in further taking the PL’s case to a place where compromise is no longer possible, because the loss of face involved would be catastrophic.
It’s a full on fight to the death mate

 

[Cityinmud]

what a stupid fucking post

Do you mean before Peps contract runs out?

Or do you mean before Pep gets fucked off with everything and off he pops?

Great fishing by the way

Uhh?? I don't really get these reactions considering I wrote that post because pep (a respected coach, if not the most, in football) is our biggest champion and knows how to make statement in media. His statements holds more weight while he is our coach.

 

[Joeyyy]

This has probably been said before, but this whole situation does make you or at least me wonder. We win the premier league and celebrate, but we are celebrating a competition that is accusing/defaming us. When this bullshitery of charges is cleared, which I expect/hope it is. Do we just move forward and forget it, do we counter sue and in doing so damage the competition that tried to damage us while we are winning or trying to win it.
It might read like a mad ramble but it’s abit of an emotional quagmire I want to win the prem but also wanna say fuck the Prem. I wanna win the CL but also say fuck the CL.
My ideal outcome is heads roll within the Prem and a statement is released with an apology to Manchester City and that the Prem will open investigations into every other club with a head office in Paul pogbas parents house and the head of IT will be the person from Liverpool. With Harry redknapp investigating transfer fees, John Terry leading racist investigations, Ivan Toney on keeping gambling out of the game…what else…Ryan giggs inquiring on domestic abuse and family values.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

This has gone on so long that I sometimes forget what our so called “cheating” is.

Am I right in saying that the accusation is that our owners weren’t allowed to put as much money in their own business as they would have liked to? So they invented sponsorship from so called third parties.

Serious question. If I am correct then of course the crime is that a cartel tried to stifle competition.

I thought it was about some extra money paid to Mancini for doing work for an affiliate club. Something like £250k? Yonks ago!

...As if that is the cause of us winning what we're winning now, performing the way we are. Quite ridiculous tbh. Our team perform the way they do through hard work and talent, not because we overpaid someone 10 years ago.

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

This is what both parties want. Drag it out for years and years and years and then a joint statement in very small letters stating the case is closed erm behind closed doors. The premier can’t be blamed for not doing anything and city can claim a victory of sorts. By the time it actually comes around no body will remember what all the fuss was about.

Premier will have tarnished city’s reputation while also appearing competent and appeasing the cartel clubs. More and more likely that this is just the next stage. It has taken them years to get to this point. 10 years from now it will be hidden under the return of Jeremy Kyle or some shit like that.

Meanwhile we clean up for another 10 season -:)

Nothing personal, but I fear that’s real flight of fancy stuff. You honestly think the public, having been egged on by the rag and dipper stooges in the media for the better part of 5 to 10 years, will roll over and accept a closed doors fudge?

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

The ‘face saving’ ship sailed away over the horizon the day the PL chose to present their case to the world in clickbait form (115 charges, when really it’s about 8 or 9….I think), without even notifying us. The red shirted press stooges have then played a part in further taking the PL’s case to a place where compromise is no longer possible, because the loss of face involved would be catastrophic.
It’s a full on fight to the death mate

tbh I thought they had notified us. Pep was talking about those 8 clubs that asked for this before the charges dropped. I thought it was strange but then it became clear.

And I think the "115 charges" (Most used phrase now by our rivals) boil down to 4 or 5 and 90% of them have been written off by City leaving 1 or 2 that might stick.

 

[Northblue]

Am I reading this wrong or does this mean we shouldn’t be punished for breaching rules that didn’t exist until after we breached them?? In which case fucking obviously

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

tbh I thought they had notified us. Pep was talking about those 8 clubs that asked for this before the charges dropped. I thought it was strange but then it became clear.

And I think the "115 charges" (Most used phrase now by our rivals) boil down to 4 or 5 and 90% of them have been written off by City leaving 1 or 2 that might stick.

They rang Sorriano didn’t they, as the news broke in the media via a clearly (allegedly of course) pre-briefed Martin Ziegler. The stuff about 90% of the charges being written off was bollocks wasn’t it, or at least in as much as whilst City might think they’re without merit, it doesn’t mean the PL agrees

 

[wolviedinho]

Nothing personal, but I fear that’s real flight of fancy stuff. You honestly think the public, having been egged on by the rag and dipper stooges in the media for the better part of 5 to 10 years, will roll over and accept a closed doors fudge?

I wouldn’t bet against it mate. I like any blue wants us cleared as quick as possible but I would not be surprised to see us talking about this in 5/10 seasons from now. The judge has already told the premier to get on with the case or fuck off. The gov paper coming out combined with red pressure has us in this position.

Throwing out another theory based on that tweet.

 

[marco]

The ‘face saving’ ship sailed away over the horizon the day the PL chose to present their case to the world in clickbait form (115 charges, when really it’s about 8 or 9….I think), without even notifying us. The red shirted press stooges have then played a part in further taking the PL’s case to a place where compromise is no longer possible, because the loss of face involved would be catastrophic.
It’s a full on fight to the death mate

absolutely bang on 100%, we'l walk from this im sure and one day on the thread title in brackets it will say (City cleared page ????) the PL then have to be sued for damages and the clubs that have assisted in the smear campaign along with sections of the press

 

[BlueAnorak]

In addition to rulling out charges prior to introduction of the rules, City are are also believed to have challenged the involvement of Arsenal fan Murray Rosen KC, the head of the Premier League’s independent judicial panel, as the person who appoints the chair of the disciplinary commission. Technically he could also appoint himself in that role.

The fact City are going to court on the basis of these points shows more staggering ineptness by the Premier League (PL).

City will win the case to rule out charges for breaking the rules PRIOR to introduction of the rules. English law is pretty clear on that point.

The BIG problem for the PL is English Judge's HATE frivolous charges just to cloud the reputation of a defendant which could materially affect the judgement in the other part of the case in City's favour.

The fact the PL got 10 of the charges wrong in the first instance wasn't a good start, this is showing a trend.

 

[Ducado]

absolutely bang on 100%, we'l walk from this im sure and one day on the thread title in brackets it will say (City cleared page ????) the PL then have to be sued for damages and the clubs that have assisted in the smear campaign along with sections of the press

We won’t be taking any action against them that’s not how it works

What is more likely to happen is both sides will retreat to a point that is acceptable to both which won’t be punitive and the whole thing will disappear

There has been damage done to the clubs image reputation, and that is what this is all about

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

I wouldn’t bet against it mate. I like any blue wants us cleared as quick as possible but I would not be surprised to see us talking about this in 5/10 seasons from now. The judge has already told the premier to get on with the case or fuck off. The gov paper coming out combined with red pressure has us in this position.

Throwing out another theory based on that tweet.

Don’t quite think that’s what he said was it? I think he expressed his surprise at the time it was all taking, but those delays were widely attributed to City contesting every single point possible and not co-operating, weren’t they?

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

absolutely bang on 100%, we'l walk from this im sure and one day on the thread title in brackets it will say (City cleared page ????) the PL then have to be sued for damages and the clubs that have assisted in the smear campaign along with sections of the press

It’s a delicious thought, but sadly not one that will ever happen. Others more erudite than me have explained why loads of times

 

[nmc]

Never underestimate the capacity for 'experts' to be dumb as fuck.

Or so arrogant that they think they can invent whatever rules they want to suit their purpose.

 

[nmc]

He's not just an Arsenal fan though, he's a "member" and, (assuming he doesn't mean "member" in the shareholder sense), by way of guide to what that means, a "Platinum" member at Arsenal avails themselves of the following benefits

As a Platinum Member you will enjoy:

• Ticket access to every competitive men's first team fixture including Premier League, Emirates FA Cup, English League Cup and European matches at Emirates Stadium
• Complimentary official matchday programme and half-time drink
• A team of dedicated account managers throughout the season
• Opportunity to upgrade your Membership to include seasonal dining in one of our exclusive Members-Only Clubs
• Access to the new My Arsenal Rewards programme

Additional Benefits:

• Ticket transfer to guests electronically
• Sell your Platinum tickets to other Arsenal Members
• Buy away tickets (in line with the club's ticketing policy)
• Enter ballots for Domestic Cup Semi-Final and Final tickets
• Set your dining and hospitality preferences online
• Get priority access to other Emirates Stadium events
• Access selected, exclusive Member events all season
• Save 10% on retail purchases

Whilst there's no indication that he doesn't pay the going rate for the benefits he receives, that is someone with more than a passive interest in the wellbeing of Arsenal football club. To save any suspicion at all that the process is less than "independent", he should have stepped aside. That is especially the case after the infamous cartel letter on Arsenal headed paper.

And aren’t Bird and Bird - who have led the PL ‘investigation’ Arsenal’s retained legal counsel ?

 

[MeatnSpudsMCFC]

Predictably as ever, a good result ends with questions on the integrity of the game again. I wouldn’t actually be opposed to any model that makes the game more equitable, but that means universal salary caps and a playoff system to ensure a mix bag of winners.

But no one is advocating that, particularly those who support Man Utd or Liverpool. Income based salary cap like the one in La Liga is what they want. The irksome part is journalists who write about FFP don’t really highlight this.

I guess it depends on your interpretation of “fairness”.