VAR thread 2022/23

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Seems they are now moving towards recruiting specialist VARs rather than it being a semi retirement job for ex referees. Likely to take some time though, so probably not going to notice much difference at the start of next season.
 
Stephen230 said:
Can’t find this story anywhere. Not even on Martin Lipton’s Twitter.

Anyone got a link to where it’s been reported?
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I have to say brilliant move for FA.
6/7 from City is too harsh to handle so they have to put great obstacles.
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
What bullshit reason have they come up with?

I'm guessing it just doesn't fit in with Scudamore's 'strategic plan'.
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the reason they came up with is that technology is moving so fast that something better might come along.

I've never heard such a shit decision in my life. The premier league is the richest league in the world and it deserves the best technology around by default. The fans pay for this so we expect fast accurate decisions. If the tech is only around for a year before being replaced then so what.
 
ManCityGR! said:
Oh wow. So they didn't want as much fairness as possible?
What did we vote and are votes public or whatever?
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I’ve not seen that info it is public knowledge. I’ll keep my out eye though.

There does seem to be a difference of opinion on what exactly was on offer. The first report I read suggested that it was the UEFA system that apparently the clubs weren’t convinced is any better than the one they’re currently using.

But there’s some reports now that it was FIFAs chip in the ball system on offer, which I’d be surprised about to be honest.
 
Stephen230 said:
I’ve not seen that info it is public knowledge. I’ll keep my out eye though.

There does seem to be a difference of opinion on what exactly was on offer. The first report I read suggested that it was the UEFA system that apparently the clubs weren’t convinced is any better than the one they’re currently using.

But there’s some reports now that it was FIFAs chip in the ball system on offer, which I’d be surprised about to be honest.
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This search for 100% accuracy is bollocks anyway. I don't get all the excitement for it.
 
halfcenturyup said:
This search for 100% accuracy is bollocks anyway. I don't get all the excitement for it.
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It's not the accuracy with the semi-automated system; it just removes the subjectivity (the exact frame the pass was made) from the decision making process and stops the bent cnuts picking the frame that suits their desired outcome. There is still a margin of error between frames with players running at top speed.

We're going to see some very squiffy offside decisions next season.
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
It's not the accuracy with the semi-automated system; it just removes the subjectivity (the exact frame the pass was made) from the decision making process and stops the bent cnuts picking the frame that suits their desired outcome. There is still a margin of error between frames with players running at top speed.

We're going to see some very squiffy offside decisions next season.
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It’s also way faster. The average time it takes to resolve an offside with semi-automated offside is <30 seconds compared to over a minute with the existing line-drawing (though it has gotten quicker as officials have gotten used to it). With SA offside systems the only decision that needs to be made is if the offside player was active.

I actually think combined with AI it could be done faster, and you can solve for whether the player is active that way. Wouldn’t be surprised if it could become near instantaneous in the future. People will say that’s fantasy and will never happen because only humans can make that decision, but they’re wrong. AI is orders of magnitudes better at consistently applying complex rulesets than humans if you feed it the right info. I can guarantee you somebody is working on it.
 
SkyBlueFlux said:
It’s also way faster. The average time it takes to resolve an offside with semi-automated offside is <30 seconds compared to over a minute with the existing line-drawing (though it has gotten quicker as officials have gotten used to it). With SA offside systems the only decision that needs to be made is if the offside player was active.

I actually think combined with AI it could be done faster, and you can solve for whether the player is active that way. Wouldn’t be surprised if it could become near instantaneous in the future. People will say that’s fantasy and will never happen because only humans can make that decision, but they’re wrong. AI is orders of magnitudes better at consistently applying complex rulesets than humans if you feed it the right info. I can guarantee you somebody is working on it.
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So if bullsh*t goes in, bullsh*t comes out?
 
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