Declan Rice

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Trickyblues said:
Maybe, but Arsenal had the best chance they’ve had in ages to win it this year and blew it. Liverpool will be back. Chelsea will probably better. Newcastle will get better.
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Are we not allowed to get better too?

As for Chelsea, Boehly is shaping up to be a Mike Ashley type owner. People pinning expectation on a Chelsea resurgence may end up very wrong. Its one thing to have an off season, but to accumulate less than 50 points - thats systemic issues.
 
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HumbledGooner said:
Are we not allowed to get better too?

As for Chelsea, Boehly is shaping up to be a Mike Ashley type owner. People pinning expectation on a Chelsea resurgence may end up very wrong. Its one thing to have an off season, but to accumulate less than 50 points - thats systemic issues.
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I think its clear Arsenal mean business. You have a great manager and this year will be a big lesson to everyone and will come back stronger. Just have to factor in Europe etc. but I expect Arsenal to be right at the top again next year
 
HumbledGooner said:
Are we not allowed to get better too?

As for Chelsea, Boehly is shaping up to be a Mike Ashley type owner. People pinning expectation on a Chelsea resurgence may end up very wrong. Its one thing to have an off season, but to accumulate less than 50 points - thats systemic issues.
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Seems to be a blindspot with Arsenal thinking that if they improve they will win the league as opposed to it being a one off great season for a team that usually finishes outside of top 4.
 
HumbledGooner said:
Are we not allowed to get better too?

As for Chelsea, Boehly is shaping up to be a Mike Ashley type owner. People pinning expectation on a Chelsea resurgence may end up very wrong. Its one thing to have an off season, but to accumulate less than 50 points - thats systemic issues.
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Arsenal will absolutely improve next season - you’ve got a strong spine to the team, and a fantastic Manager who learned from the very best (and I’m not talking about Wenger here!!).

But you’ll be competing on four fronts next year, and I don’t see your board being happy with Arteta chucking in the towel on all the other trophies (particularly the CL) and putting all his eggs in the Premier League basket - given how that ‘strategy’ panned out for you last season!

So you’ll need to be a lot better next season - fighting on four fronts is a lot tougher than one. And you found one more than tough enough going last time round!
 
If Rice were single and childless, I would be bricking it right now. However, with a newborn I just subscribe fully to the notion he wants to stay in London and within his family hub.

Have West Ham name dropped City to extort a higher fee from us? Have City registered interest to fuck with us? Or is the interest from City genuine and your going to have a crack. Who knows. But at the end of the day, Rice will pick his next club, and with a newborn I really cant see him making a move 200 miles up the road.
 
HumbledGooner said:
If Rice were single and childless, I would be bricking it right now. However, with a newborn I just subscribe fully to the notion he wants to stay in London and within his family hub.

Have West Ham name dropped City to extort a higher fee from us? Have City registered interest to fuck with us? Or is the interest from City genuine and your going to have a crack. Who knows. But at the end of the day, Rice will pick his next club, and with a newborn I really cant see him making a move 200 miles up the road.
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City are not in for Declan Rice, why would we be when we want Kovacic, btw what was Arsenal opening bid ?
 
HumbledGooner said:
If Rice were single and childless, I would be bricking it right now. However, with a newborn I just subscribe fully to the notion he wants to stay in London and within his family hub.

Have West Ham name dropped City to extort a higher fee from us? Have City registered interest to fuck with us? Or is the interest from City genuine and your going to have a crack. Who knows. But at the end of the day, Rice will pick his next club, and with a newborn I really cant see him making a move 200 miles up the road.
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Surely much easier to move with a newborn rather than with older kids already settled in school?
 
FantasyIreland said:
It means nothing of the sort.

Besides.....there are zero quotes to suggest that rumour is true.
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I can tell you it's very true, but not for the reasons people think and the London thing isn't set in stone, its something else driving it.

I get some good inside info on this one and have done for a few years now.

But there's a reason for it. City have had talks several times, but all they are are talks. His people are sick of "talks".

They were absolutely convinced he was going to Chelsea for two solid years. Last year Boehly did with him what he did with Ake. It left his team fuming and they absolutely do not want to be burned again.

I've asked but haven't heard back so my guess on today is one of two things.

1. West Ham are using City's name to drive the price up and speed a deal

or

2. City are genuine and have gone straight to West Ham to prove they are serious this time before talking to the Rice camp.

Tactically my guess is that if we are in for him Phillips is going the other way and/or Pep may look at another evolution and move Stones to RB where he can do John Stones things, with Rodri and Rice ahead and some sort of crazy thing up front to get Alvarez in more. I think buying Rice could signify a switch to a back 3.
 
HumbledGooner said:
If Rice were single and childless, I would be bricking it right now. However, with a newborn I just subscribe fully to the notion he wants to stay in London and within his family hub.

Have West Ham name dropped City to extort a higher fee from us? Have City registered interest to fuck with us? Or is the interest from City genuine and your going to have a crack. Who knows. But at the end of the day, Rice will pick his next club, and with a newborn I really cant see him making a move 200 miles up the road.
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Thaksinssoldier said:
I can tell you it's very true, but not for the reasons people think and the London thing isn't set in stone, its something else driving it.

I get some good inside info on this one and have done for a few years now.

But there's a reason for it. City have had talks several times, but all they are are talks. His people are sick of "talks".

They were absolutely convinced he was going to Chelsea for two solid years. Last year Boehly did with him what he did with Ake. It left his team fuming and they absolutely do not want to be burned again.

I've asked but haven't heard back so my guess on today is one of two things.

1. West Ham are using City's name to drive the price up and speed a deal

or

2. City are genuine and have gone straight to West Ham to prove they are serious this time before talking to the Rice camp.

Tactically my guess is that if we are in for him Phillips is going the other way and/or Pep may look at another evolution and move Stones to RB where he can do John Stones things, with Rodri and Rice ahead and some sort of crazy thing up front to get Alvarez in more. I think buying Rice could signify a switch to a back 3.
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In your opinion how hard would it be for city to change his mind about staying in London?
 
Thaksinssoldier said:
I can tell you it's very true, but not for the reasons people think and the London thing isn't set in stone, its something else driving it.

I get some good inside info on this one and have done for a few years now.

But there's a reason for it. City have had talks several times, but all they are are talks. His people are sick of "talks".

They were absolutely convinced he was going to Chelsea for two solid years. Last year Boehly did with him what he did with Ake. It left his team fuming and they absolutely do not want to be burned again.

I've asked but haven't heard back so my guess on today is one of two things.

1. West Ham are using City's name to drive the price up and speed a deal

or

2. City are genuine and have gone straight to West Ham to prove they are serious this time before talking to the Rice camp.

Tactically my guess is that if we are in for him Phillips is going the other way and/or Pep may look at another evolution and move Stones to RB where he can do John Stones things, with Rodri and Rice ahead and some sort of crazy thing up front to get Alvarez in more. I think buying Rice could signify a switch to a back 3.
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The only thing that makes me think it's genuine from our side, is Pep is a fan right of Declan Rice , when we've played West ham he's talked up Rice same as he did with Grealish.

Pep sees something in Rice that we don't see.
 
Big Joe Corrigan said:
Surely much easier to move with a newborn rather than with older kids already settled in school?
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I doubt they are thinking about school. Im talking about being in a situation where your not 20 mins away from all yor immediate family. Especially his missus who will be doing alot of the nappy changing ect - does she wants a family aperatus within range to help raise the child? Or go solo in Manchester? Even for people with money, which the Rice's will have - they would want family around.
 
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