PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Shirley said:
Migs is at it again..


Man City scandal is not about fair play – it’s about fraud​


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seriously the club need a word with this ****
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Is it not only fraud if we’re not paying the tax man? Not conforming to some silly made up rules is not fraud. Who are we alleged to have defrauded?
 
Coatigan said:
If that were to be the outcome, I would bet the club would challenge any transfer ban. A fine, wouldn't bet either way.
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The one part of this that I don't think even the club are disputing is that we did not co-operate fully with investigations so I don't think they would bother fighting a small fine for that. Even though we had good reason at the time not to hand over our info.
 
give it to gordon said:
I know the ITK's are saying this will go on for years.
But the increase over the last week of shit throwing at City makes me wonder if something is about to happen. It seems to have gone into overdrive.
Throw as much shit as possible because in a few weeks time City are cleared. Properly wish full thinking on my behalf

Its either the press/media are really pissed of City did the treble, which I find hard to believe. So that only leaves the charges.

Obviously I have no proof it's just a gut feeling, they has to be a reason for the increase in shit thowing.
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I think they are completely unrelated myself. The recent rush coincides with the release of this youtube video on the CAS case by some anonymous bored widos. All the articles, talks on talk segments etc, are pointing back to segments of that, and trying to use as something 'new' to relate to the PL process. Then they are all echoing each other, writing about what the previous claimed, with a little bit of individual embellishment and a bit less detail each round. Imo.
 
MarsLlama said:
The one part of this that I don't think even the club are disputing is that we did not co-operate fully with investigations so I don't think they would bother fighting a small fine for that. Even though we had good reason at the time not to hand over our info.
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A fine, maybe yeah. A transfer ban, they would absolutely fight imo. It would be a disproportionate punishment for 'non co-opdration'

It is not quite true the club aren't disputing non co- operation. They fully co- operated. Up to a point, when they said you have enough now, can't keep going into every year thereafter.
 
give it to gordon said:
I know the ITK's are saying this will go on for years.
But the increase over the last week of shit throwing at City makes me wonder if something is about to happen. It seems to have gone into overdrive.
Throw as much shit as possible because in a few weeks time City are cleared. Properly wish full thinking on my behalf

Its either the press/media are really pissed of City did the treble, which I find hard to believe. So that only leaves the charges.

Obviously I have no proof it's just a gut feeling, they has to be a reason for the increase in shit thowing.
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Shit throwing could be to derail transfer plans

they are shit scared of what we are and what we will become
 
How were these charges brought against us ? What made the pl think ok thats go through Citys books we think they are cheating. On what grounds did the pl have to investigate ?

just say if City had proof that a club was up to no good and City present it to the pl. The pl than ignore it because it doesnt suit the pl to investigate said club. What would happen next ?

Non of this sounds above board to me. It's clear some clubs have put pressure on the pl to investigate City. City have said fuck off we arent giving you information to pass onto the other clubs.

The red tops have the press/media in their pockets and get them to throw shit at City.

It's all as bent as a nine bob note

How do the pl know that utd books are clean. They cant get the information from the Carmen Islands banks.
 
Coatigan said:
It really isn't. It is still 115 or (whatever the big number is) charges.

Technically, you can group it all into 1 'charge' if you really want to. People have done that with 5 groups of related charges. But they are all still individual charges.
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It was the PL themselves who grouped it into 5 specific charges so you can understand posts like the one you're replying to.


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ONTHERUNWITHTHAKSIN said:
Shit throwing could be to derail transfer plans

they are shit scared of what we are and what we will become
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I don't think there's any doubt on that, the timing and sheer amount of regurgitated crap is telling and will continue as long as the window is open. They're desperately hoping it will put doubt into players heads.
 
give it to gordon said:
I know the ITK's are saying this will go on for years.
But the increase over the last week of shit throwing at City makes me wonder if something is about to happen. It seems to have gone into overdrive.
Throw as much shit as possible because in a few weeks time City are cleared. Properly wish full thinking on my behalf

Its either the press/media are really pissed of City did the treble, which I find hard to believe. So that only leaves the charges.

Obviously I have no proof it's just a gut feeling, they has to be a reason for the increase in shit thowing.
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It’s good for the media to regurgitate and make the public believe they have a new angle on what’s going to happen. The Daily Mail survives on its traffic and the comments section on each article shows where people are reading. I stupidly looked out of curiosity yesterday and the so called new revelations that came about Thursday article had comments in the thousands. You looked at other stories the comments were in the hundreds.

Getting their readers angry over a £30 million Etisalat payment over decade ago and not explaining the context of it is good for business.
 
£300m in prize money
€70m new sleeve deal
£150m sales
£ money still owed

Go & spend the fucking lot especially after reports City will break £700m turnover

Chelsea again giving out 8 year deals yesterday before the new 5 year deal only kicked in today, what they have done & still doing + selling made up prices to Saudi teams for players is exactly what the Prrmier League should be investigating not something supposed to happen back in 2011 or some bullshit YouTube video

Sell Mahrez, Laporte & Phillips then go & smash £300m on Gvardiol, Veiga, Coman, FDJ
Bring back Fernandinio & 1 other for coach
 
John Wayne said:
Is it over? So it lasted all of 10 minutes?

They've really got nothing on us, have they?
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That’s the real bombshell if people choose to read between the lines…

Which of course the target audience won’t, because, just as the fish doesn’t have the capacity to recognise water, they simply can’t even read in this instance.

Like the amoeba they are only equipped to process the sh*t that’s in front of them.

Eat and excrete. The more the trough gets filled, the more they excrete…and so on, and so forth…

‘Amoeba-pigs’
 
give it to gordon said:
How were these charges brought against us ? What made the pl think ok thats go through Citys books we think they are cheating. On what grounds did the pl have to investigate ?

just say if City had proof that a club was up to no good and City present it to the pl. The pl than ignore it because it doesnt suit the pl to investigate said club. What would happen next ?

Non of this sounds above board to me. It's clear some clubs have put pressure on the pl to investigate City. City have said fuck off we arent giving you information to pass onto the other clubs.

The red tops have the press/media in their pockets and get them to throw shit at City.

It's all as bent as a nine bob note

How do the pl know that utd books are clean. They cant get the information from the Carmen Islands banks.
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Those der spiegel articles and leaked emails. Once they were out, Uefa reacted by opening their investigation. As soon as they did, the PL opened their own investigation as well.

I honestly thought once CAS closed that episode, the PL would follow suit and use that. It would have been quite easy for them to close it out and claim, consistent with the CAS findings, they conclude the same.

But they didn't, they took another 2.5 years, investigating books right back to 2009 before even uefa's ffp came about. Which is why I don't buy this they are only doung it to appease pressure. I'm sure there IS pressure, and they are trying to appease it. But if that was all, they could have fallen in line with the CAS findings and closed it and still been able to say they tried.

Re doing it in reverse as you mention, I don't think pressure alone is enough. There has to be a big enough public thing to make them have to be seen to act. I.e You can't just request they look into a club for a laugh. Unfortunately, ours was thatnder spiegel leaks which clained to have actual evidence of wrongdoing and put it out in public.
 
LongsightM13 said:
What I’m hearing from a dick who tbf had been wrong a lot but tbf who got CAS verdict 100%
We’re getting done again on the non co-operation issue. The equivalent of resisting arrest from a copper who is trying to fit you up for a murder you didn’t commit
But they HAVE to do us for something as a political sop
Pretty much everything else has been dismissed and destroyed
A fine that won’t touch the sides and a one window transfer ban. With another window ban suspended
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Pretty certain the dick who told you is incorrect fella. I don’t believe PL don’t have the powers to sanction a transfer ban.

That would fall under FIFA’s remit & as far as I’m aware. Fifa aren’t involved in this process, so I really don’t see how a transfer ban is a possibility?

On top of that, the only teams which have previously been given a transfer ban, have been banned for transfer irregularities, which I don’t think any of our 115 charges relate to
 
Very clearly and concisely put.
I don't want to see the end of the P/L over this though as I think that would create more questions imo, going back to the formation of the league.
I would like the P/L to confirm who was behind the scheme to bring the accusations against City and issue a full and frank apology for doing so. (I think the P/L is unlikely to do this!)
The libellous media need to be held accountable too. (Major apologies all round!)
City are entitled to an explanation.
 
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