It's Quiet 18 - Wanna ring the bell?

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I don't have any concerns about Kovacic "replacing" Gundogan. He's quite similar to the player Gundogan was when we bought him. We didn't sign Gundogan as an attacking midfielder who could score 10-15goals a season. He got 3 or 4 and then upped it to 5 or 6 until we had to play him further forwards. If Kovacic is allowed to get into more attacking areas then he can easily chip in with 7-8 goals. Gundo went on a bit of a run last season and ended up with 11 in all competitions.

What Kovacic does ensure, is that we don't get completely carved open centrally, which was happening before Stones slotted in to plug the gap. He's got younger and quicker legs than Gundogan had.
 
glyntowen said:
Not really

Palmer prob going on loan so not really in the squad
Bobb is the youth player than might get 200 mins over the season
Not given up on Phillips unlike most

I assume you have a list of names that will improve us in your eyes or you just one of these that like shiney new things that aren't really needed

I'm talking real upgrades, players that will come in as first 11, not players that might be better than what we have and might take 12 months to settle if they even do

Take the Georgian lad at Napoli, not even going to try and spell it lol. Next big thing apparently, over £100 mil, the fact he is coming from Italy is a warning flag for me, not many players travel well from there to Premier league. Add in we don't deal with Napoli and he isn't available

The Market is poor for the level we are at, would a like a new cm yes, can I see one that fits AND we can get them.. No

Would I like a rm or winger, yes, wanted a bit of pace in the team for a while, can I see one I'm really confident with... No

We are a month away, no doubt the club are looking at players and it wouldn't be a shock if they did land someone but I'm not panicking like some just yet
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If you've ever taken the time to read any of my posts you would never be asking me if I'm "one of these" that likes shiny new things. I won't lie. The moment I read that I couldn't take anything else you had to say into account. If you believe we're OK as is in terms of our objectives fair play to you. I don't think we have the requisite depth at the moment. That's not a radical position, by the way. If, for example, Grealish and KDB were to each go down for a month during a period with CL games where do we go? You'd have Foden, Haaland, Bernardo, Kovacic, and Alvarez. No depth and very limited flexibility in terms of how Pep could line them up being that Alvarez is not a proven wide man.

That said, I've stated all along there's no reason to be worried as I fully expect the club to make moves to MAINTAIN, the level, not upgrade, in the face of losing Gundo and Mahrez. Losing two important players of their level and experience and backfilling them with Palmer, McAtee, and Bobb would not qualify as maintaining our level. As far as Kovacic, IMO he's the quality depth player we actually should have had in place prior to this season as we were extremely fortunate that Bernardo, Gundo, Rodri, and KDB (mostly) enjoyed injury free seasons.

The reality is that we'll never have to worry about the concerns of those panicking because City will make the moves needed to succeed so those of you saying we are good enough now, as is, won't ever thankfully have to be pulled up on it. So basically the Flappers won't need to worry and the Happy Clappers can go blissfully on their way ignorant to the reality that many of them have no idea what they're talking about.

In summary. Do I support and believe in the club to do what's necessary? 100%. Do I think we're good enough for a run at another historic season as we are now? Absolutely not. Am I worried? Not even a little bit. I hope that helps...
 
Sleeping_Easy said:
He’s not wrong though. Gundo used to come in for a lot of criticism in the past on here. It’s only the last season or two people have realised what he brings to the team. It’s no coincidence that Gundo’s form improved dramatically with the settling in of Rodri. Gundo is some player but the base that Rodri gives for those in front is key
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He's right if he means there's no need to panic. He's wrong if he means he doesn't need replacing...
 
Not the right thread for it but I’ll use it as it’s busy, are we releasing any behind the scenes documentary again this summer?
 
richards30 said:
Not improved us currently has it?
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Not currently, no. IMO we were short a CM BEFORE Gundo left. Kovacic was brought in to solve that "problem" not replace Gundo. Gundo then leaves followed by Mahrez. How can anyone say we've improved. On the flip side we're certain to make moves beginning with the addition of Gvardiol so it remains to be seen if we improve or at least maintain our standard...
 
Centurions said:
Your first sentence is fluff as it make no sense re. what I wrote.

"It is conceivable that City could lose Mahrez, Gundogan and Walker — as well as Aymeric Laporte and Joao Cancelo — in this window while bringing in just two players."

At this moment in time (emphasis on this moment in time) he would be quite right.

Cancelo we all know about and barely qualifies to be included in that list, Mahrez was benched for the Bayern QF games onward and pretty much kept for the PL games run in. Laporte got a lot less than that, so we've now got Kovacic & Gvardiol in (Gvardiol is done as far as I'm concerned) and Walker so far is still here (as is Cancelo & Laporte but I'd be surprised if they're still here when the window closes).

So highlighting the sentence you did makes no sense.
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You said I "read what you want to read in that purely because its Sam Lee". I answered that I dont have any strong opinions on Sam Lee, what "makes no sense" to you about that?

On there second part, I disagree. It's, in my opinion, not conceivable at all (even at this moment in time) that Txiki could ship Mahrez, Gundogan, Walker, Laporte and Cancelo and only replace them with only Kovacic and Gvardiol, I think there is no chance at all of that happening. This since Txiki is not an idiot (despite what many posters on here think), and replacing 5 senior players with 2, when you already had the smallest squad in the league, is something only an idiot would do. It could possibly be 4 replacements, maybe (just maybe) 3.. But 2? Be serious, we are not run by clowns
 
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