It's Quiet 18 - Wanna ring the bell?

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Well, it translates as:

West Ham denies the news that there is an offer of £87 million from Man City to sign Lucas Paqueta. The only offer that West Ham acknowledged his arrival from Man City was an oral offer a week ago, which fell far short of the club's expectations.
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It probably comes from his post "Transfer Update 11/08/23-3:30pm"

 
Damn, looking like Gabri Veiga from Celta Vigo going to Napoli for im sure probably a quarter of the Paqueta money being banded about. He was the midfielder I wanted when Gundo left but I dont think we were intersted. Wish he would have stayed in Spain but eh
 
I’d accept that but still firmly believe Philips would be a good player given the time. Sadly at City time isn’t given, you sink or swim! I bet he’d shine at Liverpool.
He has been given some chances. Injuries stopped it and GODRI. I don’t agree with that assessment at all. We give players nearly 1 year from signing a contract with us before really expecting anything.

Is that not enough?
 
I refuse Philips going to dippers, any other club yes but not fucking that lot.

Wouldn't be ideal selling to Liverpool, but at the same time, he's a non-entity for us at the moment, taking up a squad spot in an important position whilst collecting big wages that can be better spent elsewhere.

Our issue is finding a club where Phillips would agree to go to. If Liverpool's that club, take the money and run in my opinion. He may well improve them, but I'd rather that than him hamstringing us when we could take the £40m for his sale and buy someone Pep actually trusts to play a part.
 
I’d accept that but still firmly believe Philips would be a good player given the time. Sadly at City time isn’t given, you sink or swim! I bet he’d shine at Liverpool.

Time isn't given and you sink or swim?

Bernardo, Rodri, Grealish, Mahrez, Ake, Cancelo, Stones etc all needed, and got, time.
 
Time isn't given and you sink or swim?

Bernardo, Rodri, Grealish, Mahrez, Ake, Cancelo, Stones etc all needed, and got, time.
They all also performed from the off… so yeh sink or swim. Grealish had moments so showed he could settle. As much as I want Philips to do well here, he’s fluffed nearly every chance he’s been given inc pre season! he came back from a World Cup overweight and just hasn’t shown Pep clearly the desire. Saying you want to stay & fight for your place when you’re on a fat contract is one thing, Zinchenko did it & actually took his chances playing out of position! So again, I stand by my point, you come in & you sink or swim, those you mention all decided to swim.
 
They all also performed from the off… so yeh sink or swim. Grealish had moments so showed he could settle. As much as I want Philips to do well here, he’s fluffed nearly every chance he’s been given inc pre season! he came back from a World Cup overweight and just hasn’t shown Pep clearly the desire. Saying you want to stay & fight for your place when you’re on a fat contract is one thing, Zinchenko did it & actually took his chances playing out of position! So again, I stand by my point, you come in & you sink or swim, those you mention all decided to swim.

They certainly did not. They all needed time to adjust and perform. That is no secret, nor is it in any way an unconventional opinion.

They showed more than Philips, mind you, but he has hardly played to show anything.

We definitely do not have a sink or swim culture, that is just an absurd thing to say.
 
They certainly did not. They all needed time to adjust and perform. That is no secret, nor is it in any way an unconventional opinion.

They showed more than Philips, mind you, but he has hardly played to show anything.

We definitely do not have a sink or swim culture, that is just an absurd thing to say.ad game
Absolutely right. Compare Rodri in the last 2 seasons to his first. Compare Mahrez in the same period. Bernardo’s work rate is so ferocious that for me it means he rarely has a bad game but he became so much more effective after he settled in. Nathan Ake is transformed from his first season
 
Wouldn't be ideal selling to Liverpool, but at the same time, he's a non-entity for us at the moment, taking up a squad spot in an important position whilst collecting big wages that can be better spent elsewhere.

Our issue is finding a club where Phillips would agree to go to. If Liverpool's that club, take the money and run in my opinion. He may well improve them, but I'd rather that than him hamstringing us when we could take the £40m for his sale and buy someone Pep actually trusts to play a part.
Let’s sell him but remember the Sterling saga
He can go but it’s £65 mil to you lot
We know you have 110 mil to spend
 
City will and should do what they think is right, but for me, it's time to sell him. There is no case for squad players over the age of 25 who can't fill in regularly. None. Not when we very much need more bodies - and they must be usable.

I say this because we've worked the other midfielders to the bone and the cracks are more than showing. KDB is fragile now and Gundo walked. Time to pay up and address this long standing issue. We simply don't have enough senior players of the right types.
 
City will and should do what they think is right, but for me, it's time to sell him. There is no case for squad players over the age of 25 who can't fill in regularly. None. Not when we very much need more bodies - and they must be usable.

I say this because we've worked the other midfielders to the bone and the cracks are more than showing. KDB is fragile now and Gundo walked. Time to pay up and address this long standing issue. We simply don't have enough senior players of the right types.
Kovacic, Stones and Lewis can all do a better role filling out if Rodri needs resting... Even McAtee came on ahead of him tonight. Obviously not wanted by Pep.

Re KDB: Paqueta and Doku solves a lot of that.
 
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