Media Discussion - 2023/24

[dadnlad]

It hasn't. They were both covered in the show and both were said to be wrong by Webb.

not had talkshite on but the football show although mentioning the penalty the main outrage is akanji goal on virtual repeat

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

not had talkshite on but the football show although mentioning the penalty the main outrage is akanji goal on virtual repeat

How strange

 

[blueparsman]

Who the fook are know nowts on football show on sky. Talk sum pish

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

I don’t agree with that. With Rashford there was no argument. The ball was within playing distance and was under his control in the same way it is when a defender used his body to shepherd a ball out of play for a goal kick.

With Akanje, there are three players directly between Leno and the ball - Rodri (who was in an onside position) and two defenders. Leno’s hesitation can be attributed to a number of things, for instance thinking the ball was going wide (a la De Gea in the cup final) Or just having his vision blocked. The referee decided that Alanji was not interfering with play and the interesting thing about Webb’s program is that the audio feed suggests the VAR team were split. Since VAR is there to correct clear and obvious errors, which this wasn’t, I don’t see how the goal could be overruled within the laws of the game.

Both gave rise to a question of offside.
Rashfords should have been overruled because Attwell’s error was clear and obvious. Oliver’s wasn’t.

Akanji was offside and we all know it. Mental gymnastics can prove anything. But on the face of it both that and rashford was offside and PGMOL royally fucked up on them both.

 

[hertsblue]

Noticed the BBC HYS article is now full of anti City comments and we are laughably even put in the same bracket as the Rags for decisions.
BBC know exactly what they are doing, could have led with Onana decision but nope Ake.

Webbs show is just PR propaganda shit.
Onana one was easy as they already apologised for the error and easy ones with VVD sending off, Rags rightly offside goal but why not ( we all know why) :

Salah doing exactly the same as Akanji. The difference in the 2 identical situations shows the total bias in PGMOL and the Media with one almost being National News and othet not mentioned.

Also why not:
Lutons penalty shout for clear handball last weekend
Attwells Utd performance with wrong red card and penalty and non penalty for Forest Which led to a Forest official complaint-to PgMOL.
Dippers 2 penalty decisions, both wrong, v Bournemouth.
Rags non penalty for clear handball v Spurs
Same game, Spurs clear penalty not given
Our non penalties v Sheffield Utd
The foul In the build up to Arsenals 2nd v Fulham
And i am sure there are much more.

Until they make all audio from all games available, it will remain bent and these shows are pointless when they choose the narrative and select only what they want to select

 

[Centurions]

Akanji was offside and we all know it. Mental gymnastics can prove anything. But on the face of it both that and rashford was offside and PGMOL royally fucked up on them both.

Yes he was offside but wasn't interfering with play, that's according to the actual rules (whether you like them or not), so it was a good goal. I have no idea why you keep trying to prove otherwise or why you keep bringing up Rashford's goal which was entirely different and very obviously interfering with play.

 

[dadnlad]

Yes he was offside but wasn't interfering with play, that's according to the actual rules (whether you like them or not), so it was a good goal. I have no idea why you keep trying to prove otherwise or why you keep bringing up Rashford's goal which was entirely different and very obviously interfering with play.

yep your right every free kick taken into penalty area at least 1 player now stands off side while kick taken and doesnt move till on side by retreating defence
so lines person ;) should flag offside

 

[Bluearmy]

yep your right every free kick taken into penalty area at least 1 player now stands off side while kick taken and doesnt move till on side by retreating defence
so lines person ;) should flag offside

Being stood offside is not an offence in itself!!

 

[Centurions]

Being stood offside is not an offence in itself!!

No, although I do wish they'd go back to when it was instead of leaving it to on the fly subjective judgements. Sometimes black & white works best.

 

[Bluearmy]

No, although I do wish they'd go back to when it was instead of leaving it to on the fly subjective judgements. Sometimes black & white works best.

Having been at Middlesboro when tiatto picked up the ball at left back, ran 70 yards and smashed it into the corner of the net, only for it to be disallowed because Huckerbee was stood offside no where near the action, I wholeheartedly disagree!!

 

[dadnlad]

Being stood offside is not an offence in itself!!

it is in akanjis case now webb said it he's offside

 

[Bluearmy]

it is in akanjis case now webb said it he's offside

Yeah id noted that. He (Webb) doesn't even know or understand the current laws….

 

[Saddleworth2]

it is in akanjis case now webb said it he's offside

ah but you could see the goalkeeper 'obviously pause to see if it would hit akanji'
Webb is bent lying bastard.

 

[xgorton]

BBC giving it large about Web saying our goal should not have stood,he also said Wolves should have been given a pen last minute at the swamp but no mention on the Salford rag based Beeb,coonts

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

Yes he was offside but wasn't interfering with play, that's according to the actual rules (whether you like them or not), so it was a good goal. I have no idea why you keep trying to prove otherwise or why you keep bringing up Rashford's goal which was entirely different and very obviously interfering with play.

Because it was offside.

The vast majority of people know it. Your mental gymnastics are on the United scale of denying that the rashford one wasnt offside. Which they do.

 

[bluenova]

No, although I do wish they'd go back to when it was instead of leaving it to on the fly subjective judgements. Sometimes black & white works best.

Doesn't that rule out pretty much any cut back from the byline?

Gomez would have been offside for the 5th goal at the weekend.

 

[Blueboy73]

You don't think jumping out of the way of the ball is an obvious action?

When trying to get out of the way no

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

Yeah id noted that. He (Webb) doesn't even know or understand the current laws….

He understands them but chooses to interpret them to give the answer he wants to give.

nothing new with this facade

 

[Blueboy73]

You wanted a quote from Webb & when you get one, it makes no difference as it’s only his opinion? Lol

If you don’t think jumping out of the way of a ball when you’re 3-4 yards in front of a keeper isn’t making an obvious action & doesn’t impact on Leno diving late (which is EXACTLY the point, nothing moot about it), then I think we have different opinions on what an obvious action is

Here’s the law again mate, with regards to interfering with play making an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball

Is it open to interpretation? Yes

However, is it a fact that Akanji jumped, which is an obvious action? Yes

Is it also a fact that Leno dived too late, due to Akanji being offside? Yes (which you have acknowledged in an earlier post:

(As a top level keeper Leno should know Manu couldn't play the ball therefore if he is blaming his slow reaction on Akanji's position it's his own fault.)

Those are the valid reasons it’s offside in my opinion bud.

How are you interpreting the law so as it’s allowed?

Are you saying Akanji jumping isn’t an obvious movement or are you saying Leno wouldn’t have saved it if Akanji wasn’t there as he still would’ve dived as late & conceded the goal?

I am saying Akanji jumping is a successful attempt to get out of the way, he did not attempt to play the ball, block the line of site of or impede the keeper.
Had he not jumped and the ball had touched him, the goal is disallowed so what is he supposed to do?
If Leno didn't think Akanji was offside, why the hysterical reaction?
If he did why make a belated attempt to save the ball?
Leno is a professional footballer paid thousands of pounds a week so should know the laws.
By the way I didn't say Akanji was offside, I said he was stood in an offside position and there is a difference.
If I'm "interpreting" the law and the goal shouldn't stand, why no apology from Webb and why no official complaint from Fulham?
Wolves received an apology and Forest made an official complaint.
I've asked this numerous times but still not had a response so I will answer that one myself.
The goal was a legitimate and legal goal under the current rules, everything else is white noise.

 

[laserblue]

Doesn't that rule out pretty much any cut back from the byline?

Gomez would have been offside for the 5th goal at the weekend.

A player can only be offside when the ball is played forward, If it's cut back there's no offside. After Gomez cut the ball back he was no longer interfering with play.