PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Stoned Rose]

I did the MEN a disservice. They actually sell 8000 print copies in a metro area with a population of more than 3 million people. Manchester is one of the fastest growing cities in Europe so that's a pathetic figure.

ABCs: Irish News records table-topping double - Journalism News from HoldtheFrontPage

Figures published for 53 daily titles

www.holdthefrontpage.co.uk

Meanwhile their website audience is also plummeting which is pitiful when their online viewers are dominated by overseas football fans and City have just won a treble.

Ipsos: Top regional news sites see year-on-year drop in readership - Journalism News from HoldtheFrontPage

Fresh Ipsos figures released

www.holdthefrontpage.co.uk

Their performance is beyond bad. The worst in the entire country. That's what happens when you alienate your core customers ie supporters of Manchester City, the local football club. They won't survive much longer. No matter how much they mock our club it isn't working for them.

Set of bastards.

 

[BeerIsTheBest]

No one knows whether the panel has been selected or not as there is no requirement to report anything further until a conclusion (of whatever sort). I presume our challenge as to the legitimacy or not will be put to the panel. If they agree then they'll strike off anything not applicable. It's the PL by the way, not the FA.

When these first dropped I was convinced it would all be put to bed very quickly in our favour but I've changed my mind since and believe it will be 12 months if not years before it completes. I still believe it will be in our favour still however.

Thanks, fair points on the panel and reporting and you may well be correct……and I’m an old muddled git as proven by citing the FA and not the PL.

 

[Centurions]

So are the panel assessing the investigation first? Or are they waiting for our evidence?

Only surely it’s possible the investigation was flawed….

Waiting for our evidence and arguments (once they're assembled, if not already), I don't think it's their job to assess the investigation first, it's our job to tell them why we think it's flawed if that is our intention.

 

[Stoned Rose]

Yes, used to ring it on mum and dad’s phone to listen to some bloke keep me hanging on the line about some exciting news coming at the end of the bulletin that never failed to disappoint. I kept falling for it though!

Not as bad as those “phone lines” they used to advertise in the back of Razzle.

Rang one once when I was about 12 and waited about 20 minutes for the “hot, rampant 18 year old slut who can’t wait to talk dirty whilst you wank your cock” it kept promising was about to turn up, then the tape just looped back to the fucking beginning, no sign of the ****.

Set of bastards.

 

[Centurions]

... and the Premier League will reach a settlement that’s agreeable to City.

...

As far as I can see, the only settlement agreeable to City would be an entire retraction and apology for the charges.

 

[cheekybids]

Waiting for our evidence and arguments (once they're assembled, if not already), I don't think it's their job to assess the investigation first, it's our job to tell them why we think it's flawed if that is our intention.

Is it not like a prosecutor looking at the charges & thinking this won’t stick & a ridiculous waste of resources which could be spent at grass roots.

Maybe even give the lionesses the pay rise they desire ;)

 

[Norbert D]

As far as I can see, the only settlement agreeable to City would be an entire retraction and apology for the charges.

Fuck the apology I would prefer City sue the Premier League if they are found by the courts to have gone wildly off process.

 

[Norbert D]

Not as bad as those “phone lines” they used to advertise in the back of Razzle.

Rang one once when I was about 12 and waited about 20 minutes for the “hot, rampant 18 year old slut who can’t wait to talk dirty whilst you wank your cock” it kept promising was about to turn up, then the tape just looped back to the fucking beginning, no sign of the ****.

Set of bastards.

Ha ha think those 0898 call centres were full of velvety voiced grannies reading magazines and doing their knitting between calls…or so I was told ;-)

 

[Moggzy]

Due process. If it’s not conducted in a manner that is legal and proven unequivocally, then our club will take them to the cleaners.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Due process. If it’s not conducted in a manner that is legal and proven unequivocally, then our club will take them to the cleaners.

We already know our opponents have tried to make this a kangaroo court. Hence some of the charges pre-dating FFP.

 

[lyonfish]

I've tried to follow this thread as best I can but not having a legal mind it turns my brain into porridge, in spite of that I've had a couple of thoughts.

I would have thought that if City are saying the investigation/process is flawed, then they will have to present compelling evidence, but if this is the case then it's probably only City's first line of defence and they will have further hopefully stronger arguments to defend themselves with.
Any evidence based on City's accounts may be sensetive or confidential in nature and so the club would be wise to try and win it's case without having to present it.
The charges seem to only relate to financial matters rather than anything that might have directly affected the outcome of any matches, so to retrospectively void any of our title wins or even deduct points would seem unreasonable and would have difficult to resove cosequences for other clubs.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Not as bad as those “phone lines” they used to advertise in the back of Razzle.

Rang one once when I was about 12 and waited about 20 minutes for the “hot, rampant 18 year old slut who can’t wait to talk dirty whilst you wank your cock” it kept promising was about to turn up, then the tape just looped back to the fucking beginning, no sign of the ****.

Set of bastards.

Sorry mate, but the limitation period for commencing a claim for breach of contact has expired.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Ha ha think those 0898 call centres were full of velvety voiced grannies reading magazines and doing their knitting between calls…or so I was told ;-)

No wonder Wayne nearly went skint!

 

[Centurions]

Sorry mate, but the limitation period for commencing a claim for breach of contact has expired.

If he's still waiting for a "conclusion" would he not have a valid medical injuries claim?

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

If he's still waiting for a "conclusion" would he not have a valid medical injuries claim?

No, but he’ll definitely be in the Guinness Book of Records for one of the longest wanks in history - although no-one is ever going to top Martin Tyler that time when Martial scored.

 

[remember arthur mann]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khaldoon_Al_Mubarak

Khaldoon Khalifa Al Mubarak (Arabic: خلدون المبارك; born 1975) is an Emirati Government official and business leader. Al Mubarak holds senior positions within the Government of Abu Dhabi, including as: a member of the Executive Council since 2006, a member of the Supreme Council for Financial and Economic Affairs, and as the founding chairman of the Executive Affairs Authority. He also fulfills responsibilities for the UAE Federal government and has served as Presidential Special Envoy to the People's Republic of China since 2018.

Al Mubarak is chief executive officer and managing director of Mubadala Investment Company. He is also chairman of Manchester City FC, Melbourne City FC and Mumbai City FC. Al Mubarak is on the board of the UAE business ADNOC and serves as the Chairman of the Boards of the Emirates Nuclear Energy Corporation, Abu Dhabi Commercial Bank and Emirates Global Aluminium.

Here he is visiting 10 Downing Street....

At City Academy with President Xi of China....

With Macron...

Obama....

Putin...

As CEO and Managing Director of the Mubadala Investment Company, Khaldoon manages assets of around 288 billion US Dollars. In 2022 alone Mubadala invested in excess of 29 billion Dollars worldwide.

I've a hunch that whatever Simon Jordan, Mark Goldbridge, RAWK, Daniel Levy and Julian on AFTV have to say about City, it probably doesn't give Khaldoon too many sleepless nights.

 

[Norbert D]

I've tried to follow this thread as best I can but not having a legal mind it turns my brain into porridge, in spite of that I've had a couple of thoughts.

I would have thought that if City are saying the investigation/process is flawed, then they will have to present compelling evidence, but if this is the case then it's probably only City's first line of defence and they will have further hopefully stronger arguments to defend themselves with.
Any evidence based on City's accounts may be sensetive or confidential in nature and so the club would be wise to try and win it's case without having to present it.
The charges seem to only relate to financial matters rather than anything that might have directly affected the outcome of any matches, so to retrospectively void any of our title wins or even deduct points would seem unreasonable and would have difficult to resove cosequences for other clubs.

Much as they would love to strip titles from City it just can’t happen, it would be akin to sawing off the branch you are perched cos you don’t like the tree. When you think about any likely sanction if the yank clubs prevail it’s again a can of worms. In theory they could kick us out of the league, but how would that benefit the likes of Everton, Newcastle, West Ham etc, would they want it to happen? Even yank owned Chelsea are reported to want the charges against City dropped. Would others think are we next ? The yank red shirts and that twat at Spuds are behind all of this and probably why yanks are buying up the likes of Burnley and Leeds and even Birmingham City, basically to get closer to the 14 club votes needed to take over the premier league. However, that plan if it ever existed is in tatters, the Saudi’s have scuppered any NFL type salary cap, so maybe the bastards will end up needing us more than we need them.

 

[abu13]

I cant help but feel the PL really want to lose this case, the fallout if they were to win would be huge. For starters they would be setting a precident of investigating clubs over a long term basis, in addition to us they are currently looking at Everton, the red tops will be pushing for Newcastle to be very closely monitored. The Rags have now been fined by Uefa and as such surely there is a duty for the PL to investigate them as well, Chelsea are spunking money on long term contracts and huge deals, again it would seem reasonable to have a good look at them as well. ou have to wonder how Arsenal are funding some of their deals as well.

You then bring in the new FFP rules that will have to be monitored and the whole thing becomes a minefield. We havent even touched on the legalities of any punishments etc..

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Will this be the first thread to read 50,000 pages?

 

[MillionMilesAway]

I cant help but feel the PL really want to lose this case, the fallout if they were to win would be huge. For starters they would be setting a precident of investigating clubs over a long term basis, in addition to us they are currently looking at Everton, the red tops will be pushing for Newcastle to be very closely monitored. The Rags have now been fined by Uefa and as such surely there is a duty for the PL to investigate them as well, Chelsea are spunking money on long term contracts and huge deals, again it would seem reasonable to have a good look at them as well. ou have to wonder how Arsenal are funding some of their deals as well.

You then bring in the new FFP rules that will have to be monitored and the whole thing becomes a minefield. We havent even touched on the legalities of any punishments etc..

I think these are really quite a lot of different things.

Everton failed PL FFP but will make representations on what can be discounted to minimise how much they overspent by during the covid years.
MU were a minor overspend (whatever that entails) of UEFA FFP during covid years; yes the PL will probably have a look, but they look at everyone's FFP accounts anyway, so this isn't new.
Chelsea haven't failed FFP currently, that may come in a couple of years when the 3 year cycle comes round.
City are being investigated for not providing accurate accounts (as a simple summary, it's a lot of things) in the past.

It's like comparing apples and pears and other apples.

They'll need a lever to investigate anyone in the way City are being investigated.