Nottingham Forest (H) | Sat 23rd Sept | PL | Post Match Thread

Scaring Europe to Death said:
Consistency and common sense are mutually exclusive. However, the media have always preferred those referees who “allow the game to flow” as opposed to those who apply the letter of the law.

The best example is the 1991 FA Cup Final when Paul Gascoigne was clearly in a frenzied state of mind, before committing a stupid, horrific foul, in the opening minutes
David Elleray would have deemed it an automatic red card offence, and then been slaughtered by the media for not understanding the occasion, whereas Roger Milford looked the other way and let the game continue without so much as a serious word with Gascoigne or even Tottenham’s Captain.
Two minutes later he repeated the challenge and subsequently departed on a stretcher, with serious question marks hanging over his future career.

Without much effort I can immediately recall 3-4 occasions where Anthony Taylor has tried to use common sense, before seemingly panicking and thrusting consistency when it’s far too late.
One of the worst Forest fouls on Saturday was the one that led to Alvarez’ 2nd Free Kick. However, Taylor did nothing because he’d just carded somebody else.

He did exactly the same at Anfield last season, and previous games v Tottenham and Chelsea. Let loads of fouls go unpunished until nobody’s quite sure what’s happening, and then suddenly introduce the letter of the law.
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The Forest players left a foot in all afternoon and Taylor ignored it and it no doubt played a part in Rodri losing it. It’s a regular thing when he does our games -he seems determined not to give us Fouls. At HT Saturday I was pretty confident we would pick up another Injury.
 
Ribble73 said:
The Forest players left a foot in all afternoon and Taylor ignored it and it no doubt played a part in Rodri losing it. It’s a regular thing when he does our games -he seems determined not to give us Fouls. At HT Saturday I was pretty confident we would pick up another Injury.
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Not disagreeing, but if that had been a Live TV game then Neville or Carragher would have been praising Taylor for keeping his cards in his pocket.
That's the hypocrisy of it all
 
trevorriley said:
it was clear after 20 mis forest could not handle city, so it was time to play shithousery with injuries, laying down, ball out of play, thought we where playing atletico madrid !

the ref was clearly not capable of controlling a game when a team like forest plays with this manner. He was to slow to respond on the rodri incident and again on the ederson one. Then he fell for the most idiotic trick in the book when the forest player dived to the ground like he had been strangled to get rodri sent off. Thought the referee controlled games not players, admit it Alty you got the game wrong.
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Oh he didn't get it wrong, not in his mind anyway.
The cheating twat knew exactly what he was doing, not for the first time either.
 
Scaring Europe to Death said:
Not disagreeing, but if that had been a Live TV game then Neville or Carragher would have been praising Taylor for keeping his cards in his pocket.
That's the hypocrisy of it all
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We all know had the City players responded in kind what the result would have been. VAR has made the manipulation worse -eg the Gordon non Penalty yesterday at Sheffield Utd and Luton’s Penalty v Wolves and the endless VAR assistance to Utd to get a top 4 slot. All IMHO playing to a narrative as opposed to enforcing the rules of the game.
 
Lovebitesandeveryfing said:
I seem to remember too that Demichelis had one of his best games for us. Took charge, no problems after Vin goes — “I"ve got this!” — reorganised from the back.
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Just watched the highlights of that game back. Strangely, Vin's sending off is curiously like Rodri's. He is clearly provoked by the Hull player, who fouls him first. Otherwise, I think he's got the Hull player. He retaliates — a bit stupidly — and pays the price. And, like Rodri, is seriously annoyed by the whole thing.
God but I wish Erling had put that chance away, just to rub Forest's noses in our superiority.
 
ysmsa said:
He booked 11!
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At one point in the game we'd committed 4 fouls and had two yellow cards. Those stats are quite common for us. Someone said it earlier in the thread, we are reffed differently. I'm obviously biased but it does seem the threshold for getting cards is lower for us.
 
ballbag said:
At one point in the game we'd committed 4 fouls and had two yellow cards. Those stats are quite common for us. Someone said it earlier in the thread, we are reffed differently. I'm obviously biased but it does seem the threshold for getting cards is lower for us.
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Only one of our cards was for a foul.

If you stick your head in an opponents face, you’ll get at least a booking, as Grealish and Ederson found out.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
Only one of our cards was for a foul.

If you stick your head in an opponents face, you’ll get at least a booking, as Grealish and Ederson found out.
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I get your point. This was half way through the first half. None of that had happened yet. Although sometimes I think we get away with a shirt pull here and there. So as I said, it's just my blue glasses most of the time.
 
ballbag said:
I get your point. This was half way through the first half. None of that had happened yet. Although sometimes I think we get away with a shirt pull here and there. So as I said, it's just my blue glasses most of the time.
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Yellow cards should always be dished out more to opposition players than your own, whoever you support!

There'll be all sorts of subconscious thoughts in play. Not to ruin a match, the pluck underdog, the crowd, the LOTG being clamped down on at the time of the game etc.

The Forest defender should have been booked for his foul on Haaland in the opening minutes though. It was a much more blatant foul than Akanji’s.
 
No excuses in regards Red Card, as Rodri allowed himself to get wound up.
However, although we will never know, something must have happened at some point during the game, for City players to be so angry !??
Think the return game will be interesting !!!!!
 
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