Atmosphere - 2023/24

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Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
Ss3 has made the biggest difference to the noise levels. The rest of the ground join in when they sing.

It would be great to see rail seating put on the back 8 rows or so as many stand already
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Can you imagine if the new NSL2 had been made safe standing.

Unfortunately SSL1 can’t hear SSL3.

That’s a good shout making the back of SSL3 safe standing when the new NSL2 opens. There will be an exodus from the SS to the NS. That could be an option and a topic of discussion when 1894 meet the club.

The away fans stand on SSL3 even though there’s no safe standing.
 
jrb said:
Can you imagine if the new NSL2 had been made safe standing.

Unfortunately SSL1 can’t hear SSL3.

That’s a good shout making the back of SSL3 safe standing when the new NSL2 opens. There will be an exodus from the SS to the NS. That could be an option and a topic of discussion when 1894 meet the club.

The away fans stand on SSL3 even though there’s no safe standing.
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Aren't there rules about how steep a safe standing section can be? Doesn't make sense to me, as if fans are going to stand it's much safer to have rails there, but could be an obstacle.

Completely agree with the idea though, maybe if the club advertised it as rail seating and not safe standing they could claim that it's for safety and not to encourage fans to stand
 
EastMidlandsBlue said:
Aren't there rules about how steep a safe standing section can be? Doesn't make sense to me, as if fans are going to stand it's much safer to have rails there, but could be an obstacle.

Completely agree with the idea though, maybe if the club advertised it as rail seating and not safe standing they could claim that it's for safety and not to encourage fans to stand
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Possibly, but I don't know the rules and regulations for safe standing.

The new Spurs home end has safe standing all the way to the top of the stand behind the goal. The new Everton home end also has safe standing all the way to the top of the stand behind the goal.

Originally posted by Hello City on the Stadium Developments thread.

Here’s how their new single tier stand looks compared to the kop at Anfield.

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EastMidlandsBlue said:
Aren't there rules about how steep a safe standing section can be? Doesn't make sense to me, as if fans are going to stand it's much safer to have rails there, but could be an obstacle
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Chelsea have it on their second tier and Newcastle have it in the away end. Surely they'd be as steep, if not steeper, than the new North Stand.
 
EastMidlandsBlue said:
Aren't there rules about how steep a safe standing section can be? Doesn't make sense to me, as if fans are going to stand it's much safer to have rails there, but could be an obstacle.

Completely agree with the idea though, maybe if the club advertised it as rail seating and not safe standing they could claim that it's for safety and not to encourage fans to stand
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I dont think there are rules for it as Newcastle have it up in the away end,

I've been told the SS3 will be safe standing away fans first then our side, possibly sometime this season.
 
jrb said:
Can you imagine if the new NSL2 had been made safe standing.

Unfortunately SSL1 can’t hear SSL3.

That’s a good shout making the back of SSL3 safe standing when the new NSL2 opens. There will be an exodus from the SS to the NS. That could be an option and a topic of discussion when 1894 meet the club.

The away fans stand on SSL3 even though there’s no safe standing.
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There is an annotation suggesting they could put in safe standing in the new NSL2.

Need to lobby the club on it, because it would make a difference. When you think of how loud the Etihad is on big nights and how much noise SSL3 can make at times, having a huge 2nd tier in the NS under a roof would be epic.
 
atmosphere got a bit flat half way through the 1st half but no wonder, we didnt see the ball in play !! One of worse time wasted, players hanging about for injuries ( why the drinks break ? ). It was worse than when we play the times wasting spanish clubs !

The sending off brought the noise level back, 114 / 115 / 116 / 117 / kippax all singing loud which got the stadium going.

the problem being same as ever though, SS3 cant hear SS1 and vice versa, it is very odd. I can confirm that having been in SS3 for fulham game for 70 mins and SS1 for 20 mins... The only time we seem to get a connection is when bluemoon is belted out.

we all know the only chance of getting a full end singing together is the new northstand with two tiers of safestand, but more chance of chelsea winning the league this season than that happening though.

meanwhile id say the atmosphere is getting better every season. Fingers crossed we get safestand in SS3, personally i think it is safer because the seats up there have no support at all when fans stand up during goals. The rail seats will prevent any accidents. Although it might take a few seasons to get everybody to stand rather than sit in standing areas like what happens when tickets go on open sale in the away end in the league cup / fa cup.
 
Originals said:
I dont think there are rules for it as Newcastle have it up in the away end,

I've been told the SS3 will be safe standing away fans first then our side, possibly sometime this season.
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Chelsea and Newcastle have rail seating in the upper tiers. Lots of people already stand in ss3. So it makes sense

we need standing in the new north stand level 2. That’s where the opportunity is to create something special
 
Originals said:
I dont think there are rules for it as Newcastle have it up in the away end,

I've been told the SS3 will be safe standing away fans first then our side, possibly sometime this season.
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Where have you heard this? Really hope it’s true. Spend most of the game standing up/sitting down constantly anyway!
 
Originals said:
I dont think there are rules for it as Newcastle have it up in the away end,

I've been told the SS3 will be safe standing away fans first then our side, possibly sometime this season.
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Interesting.
I'd be surprised (but not shocked) if they installed safe standing in SS3 for our fans this season. What happens if you have bought a season ticket in SS3 for this season, and don't want safe standing?
 
PPT said:
Interesting.
I'd be surprised (but not shocked) if they installed safe standing in SS3 for our fans this season. What happens if you have bought a season ticket in SS3 for this season, and don't want safe standing?
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Good point. More likely to happen in the off season I’d imagine which would give those that want to move the chance to do so.
 
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EastMidlandsBlue said:
Aren't there rules about how steep a safe standing section can be? Doesn't make sense to me, as if fans are going to stand it's much safer to have rails there, but could be an obstacle.
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Easy. Switch to this style of rail seat but don't lock them so it keeps them compliant with the license.

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Didsbury Dave said:
Some incorrect figures in your first paragraph there. Capacity is less than youve quoted for champions league games as there are sections covered up. The away end wasn’t sold out in tiers 1 and 2 as well as being empty in 3. I think the unsold seats was in the hundreds, not thousands. The equivalent game 2 years ago had less than 40k. It was also noticeable to me last night that there weren’t many tourists there. They’ll be back.

I suspect this will be the only game of the season (unless we beat newcastle and have a really shit home draw in the league cup) where every seat isn’t sold. We are on a consistently upward trajectory.
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Sorry for the delay, I haven't logged in for a while. Point taken, I'm not sure on the exact number of the current away section for PL games never mind CL nights. Anyone know what the reduction used to be on CL nights? I want to say 1k but might be off there. Anyway, I was just roughly estimating and wanted to mention the reduced capacity because some people(anti-city social media clowns, peddling emptihad agendas mostly) haven't taken notice.

I think it's mainly because transfermarkt haven't updated it, which is why I've filled out the form to correct the capacity and emailed them(still no change). It's hard to make the argument that City have one the highest %capacity rates in the league, when those figures have been off for the last 2 and a bit seasons.

Most don't have the attention span to hear the explanation of why the figures are off, you already know how it's going to go: "BS transfermarkt says City were 11th best in 2021/22, 14th best in 2022/23 and they won a treble that season too".

In reality, it should have been around 2nd(98.76%) best in 2021/22 and 2nd(99.72%) best in 2022/23, assuming the other clubs' capacities are all up to date. Either way, those will still be some of the best %capacity rates in the league.

Also, I certainly haven’t heard anyone criticise that attendance as it would be idiotic to.
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The commentary did make a comment on the attendance apparently which wound a few blues up. Also, it's idiotic to say City can't fill their stadium or push any Emptihad agendas in 2023 but they still do it in their droves. If you have the figures and estimates to hand, you'd be surprised how many of them shut up and move on. Probably to peddle it elsewhere but if everyone had the answers for them, maybe they'd get bored and stfu about it completely.

Edit: I think you're correct about it being in the 100s, judging by the Dortmund game last season, which was very similar. See below.
 
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flapjack said:
We got a similar attendance against Dortmund last season
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Yep, 50.44k for that vs 50.2k last week. Dortmund returned around 1.6k of their allocation for that game and there were only around 130 seats left for City's part. According to the seat counters thread(comes in handy after all, that thread). Not sure which club returned more away tickets but for City's part, there couldn't have been more than a couple of hundred home seats left again. It's just a shame that the commentary teams are so hasty to point out any empty seats near the start of the game(people still making their way from the concourse) and don't seem to know where the away section is.
 
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