The Conservative Party

Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Water companies promising to spend what they should've spent as long as we all spend £150+ each year more funding what they paid out to share holders .



Another Tory policy failure.
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All problems that come with privatising monopolies.....if I am unhappy can I get a different water company to put their pipes in the ground to pipe water to my house? Can I get a different company to put gas pipes and wires into my home to change? Can I take a train ride to where I want to go but on a different line? No - and so it goes - it was pointed out at the time ad remains the case to this day. You want SKY fibre optic internet to your house...... well you only can if the nationalised BT have upgraded their lines to take it. It was a fucking con then and it is now.
 
Ok, so no northern HS2 extension. Will they channel those funds into vastly improving the network Liverpool-Manchester-Leeds-Hull? I fucking doubt it. With the budget round the corner and an election next year, they have to appease the voters in the North with a view to putting more money in their pockets. This might, might, keep some of their voters from returning to the red wall, which will screw them out of government. Here's hoping!
 
BrianW said:
He talks about 'shared values'.

I have no shared values with any Tory, still less the sort of Tory now in charge.
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That’s the real damage.

Most of the last century people from labour and the conservatives have managed to “agreeably disagree” to steal a phrase from John Bercow, on most issues, and there actually a decent amount of overlap and common ground. Not true for everything, but most big issues.


This conservative lurch to the right as they desperately try to cling on to power and prepare themselves for life after an election where they might end up being the 3rd party in terms of seats, risks us devolving into a US style of politics where there’s no shared values, no common ground, and there’s no space to just disagree on something without it being toxic.
 
The Black Shed said:
Ok, so no northern HS2 extension. Will they channel those funds into vastly improving the network Liverpool-Manchester-Leeds-Hull? I fucking doubt it. With the budget round the corner and an election next year, they have to appease the voters in the North with a view to putting more money in their pockets. This might, might, keep some of their voters from returning to the red wall, which will screw them out of government. Here's hoping!
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A reminder that without the HS2 tunnel under South Manchester, which would be part of the Northern Powerhouse Rail route from Liverpool to Manchester, there is no business case for a new line just from Manchester to Leeds. (They'd only offered Widnes to Huddersfield anyway as a new line.)
 
Vic said:
A reminder that without the HS2 tunnel under South Manchester, which would be part of the Northern Powerhouse Rail route from Liverpool to Manchester, there is no business case for a new line just from Manchester to Leeds. (They'd only offered Widnes to Huddersfield anyway as a new line.)
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I thought (probably ignorantly) that all they need to do is lengthen the station platforms (that need it), to accommodate an eight carriage train and that would immediately make a difference. Obviously there's a ton of works involved with those infrastructures but relatively easy in regards to large scale public remodelling.
 
didsburyblu said:
Liked the bit about civil service employment freeze and reducing staff numbers, so basically job cuts, met with a round of applause from his cronies.

They really don't care about anyone but themselves and despite my limited amount of political knowledge Id rather have the monster raving loonies running the country rather than this lot.
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This wanky gvmt has repeated the fairy story about cutting Civil Service costs and improving the efficiency and effectiveness of gvmt machinery so many times it’s just embarrassing.
They have nothing left
 
domalino said:
This conservative lurch to the right as they desperately try to cling on to power and prepare themselves for life after an election where they might end up being the 3rd party in terms of seats, risks us devolving into a US style of politics where there’s no shared values, no common ground, and there’s no space to just disagree on something without it being toxic.
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I admit that I haven't been paying much attention to Scottish Politics recently, but would be interesting to hear if our blues North of that border think the scandals affecting the SNP in the last year or two will see them returning Labour MP's again, or if the SNP will still have a stranglehold, as that could even see the self-servatives relegated to fourth place.
The early signs of this conference are very encouraging, with at least three far right groupings seemingly plotting against the party leader and cabinet officers, holding key positions speaking in front of an empty auditorium
 
The Black Shed said:
Ok, so no northern HS2 extension. Will they channel those funds into vastly improving the network Liverpool-Manchester-Leeds-Hull? I fucking doubt it. With the budget round the corner and an election next year, they have to appease the voters in the North with a view to putting more money in their pockets. This might, might, keep some of their voters from returning to the red wall, which will screw them out of government. Here's hoping!
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Nope. Surprised nobody is mentioning the energy crisis!! I wonder if the price cap will come down next year just before the next GE? Look what we did. We know what a hard winter you had last year but our economic strategy has allowed us to reduce the price cap now so that you are all better off. Don’t forget the tax cut we gave you by halving inflation as well.
 
bluethrunthru said:
They really are the Ali Dia of politics now

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This is the perfect example as to why Starmer and Labour aren’t committing to any policy as of yet.

The Tories have fucked everything up and can’t attack what Labour would do, so have decided to make up policies that they’re against.

Next will be stopping Labour’s plan to move our island closer to the equator or to stop badgers taking over MI6.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
This is the perfect example as to why Starmer and Labour aren’t committing to any policy as of yet.

The Tories have fucked everything up and can’t attack what Labour would do, so have decided to make up policies that they’re against.

Next will be stopping Labour’s plan to move our island closer to the equator or to stop badgers taking over MI6.
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Fuck me we had a badger on our driveway the other night - am I under surveillance ?
 
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