Are there any bona fide world class players in a bottom 10 PL team right now?

Mad Eyed Screamer said:
Talk Shite wound me up last week (I know, I know) when Goldstein and Bent were talking about "who sits at the top table with Messi and Ronaldo" in terms of goal scorers during their era.
The pair of them reeled off name after name (from Aguero, Haaland, Lewendowski, Ibramovich, Rooney, Kane, Kloser and more all saying "yeah he's at the the top table".
I'm screaming mad eyed at the car radio "how many players are at the top table?"
There was no limit. The top table was endless.
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Alan Harper's Tash said:
Do something on the world stage would be his first step.
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Lucas Paqueta becomes key player for Brazil at Copa America

RIO DE JANEIRO (AP) – When Lucas Paqueta left the pitch in pain at the end of Brazil’s 1-0 win over Peru at a Copa America semifinal on Monday, there was concern among teammates whether…
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Brazil's Lucas Paqueta is a surefire World Cup starter. West Ham fans should be excited.

Lucas Paqueta is first choice to start for Brazil at the World Cup. That's why his move to struggling West Ham should be welcome at London Stadium.
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Croatia vs Brazil player ratings: Paqueta impresses but Livakovic the hero again

Croatia 1-1 Brazil (4-2 on pens): Over 100 minutes of goalless action before Neymar broke the deadlock, only for Bruno Petkovic’s deflected strike to send the game to penalties
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Brazil player ratings: Paqueta excellent but Vinicius Jr the standout

Brazil cruised into the quarter-finals of the World Cup with a commanding victory against South Korea.
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Lucas Paquetá’s goal sends hosts Brazil past Peru into Copa América final

Brazil beat Peru in the Copa América semi-finals and will attempt to successfully defend their title on Saturday at the Maracanã Stadium
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Mad Eyed Screamer said:
Talk Shite wound me up last week (I know, I know) when Goldstein and Bent were talking about "who sits at the top table with Messi and Ronaldo" in terms of goal scorers during their era.
The pair of them reeled off name after name (from Aguero, Haaland, Lewendowski, Ibramovich, Rooney, Kane, Kloser and more all saying "yeah he's at the the top table".
I'm screaming mad eyed at the car radio "how many players are at the top table?"
There was no limit. The top table was endless.
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Serves you right for listening to that god awful station.
 
Nah, but then again I don't think Sadio Mane was considered like that when Liverpool bought him. He was just a good player.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
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Lucas Paqueta becomes key player for Brazil at Copa America

RIO DE JANEIRO (AP) – When Lucas Paqueta left the pitch in pain at the end of Brazil’s 1-0 win over Peru at a Copa America semifinal on Monday, there was concern among teammates whether…
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Ekkono

ekkonocoaches.com

www.espn.co.uk

Brazil's Lucas Paqueta is a surefire World Cup starter. West Ham fans should be excited.

Lucas Paqueta is first choice to start for Brazil at the World Cup. That's why his move to struggling West Ham should be welcome at London Stadium.
www.espn.co.uk www.espn.co.uk

www.independent.co.uk

Croatia vs Brazil player ratings: Paqueta impresses but Livakovic the hero again

Croatia 1-1 Brazil (4-2 on pens): Over 100 minutes of goalless action before Neymar broke the deadlock, only for Bruno Petkovic’s deflected strike to send the game to penalties
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk

www.standard.co.uk

Brazil player ratings: Paqueta excellent but Vinicius Jr the standout

Brazil cruised into the quarter-finals of the World Cup with a commanding victory against South Korea.
www.standard.co.uk www.standard.co.uk

www.theguardian.com

Lucas Paquetá’s goal sends hosts Brazil past Peru into Copa América final

Brazil beat Peru in the Copa América semi-finals and will attempt to successfully defend their title on Saturday at the Maracanã Stadium
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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Hardly anyone watches the Copa America over here.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
Hardly anyone watches the Copa America over here.
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well, he has 'done something' at the world stage and shines for Brazil on a regular basis - so not sure what more you need.

that aside, I was asking what more when it comes to his abilities as a player does he need to do before being considered World Class. Perhaps if he played for City (which he was/is close too) suddenly many will see what a ridiculously class player he is.
Similar to Arsenal fans that thought was Rice was 'overrated' and 'shit' and now all of a sudden worship him.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
well, he has 'done something' at the world stage and shines for Brazil on a regular basis - so not sure what more you need.

that aside, I was asking what more when it comes to his abilities as a player does he need to do before being considered World Class. Perhaps if he played for City (which he was/is close too) suddenly many will see what a ridiculously class player he is.
Similar to Arsenal fans that thought was Rice was 'overrated' and 'shit' and now all of a sudden worship him.
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Certainly exposure in the Champions League latter stages would help.

Having said all of this, it‘s a subjective definition, one you can debate until the cows come home.

For whatever reason, the Copa America is seen similarly to the African Cup of Nations. Loads of low scoring games with shithousery in them, that hardly anyone watches.
 
Not even close but it depends on your definition of World Class.

You've got to be in the top 3 or 4 in the world in your position in my opinion.
 
You have had to of reached the top of your profession on a number of occasions to be true world class which means winning the League.. Champions League or World Cup.. World Class is bandied about far too easily in modern football these days and is a level not a performance.
Not been that many true world class players in this League last 20 years.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
The standard of Latin on here has gone right downhill lately.
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Homer: “I dunno. I flunked Latin, too.”
 
Tom Ford said:
You have had to of reached the top of your profession on a number of occasions to be true world class which means winning the League.. Champions League or World Cup.. World Class is bandied about far too easily in modern football these days and is a level not a performance.
Not been that many true world class players in this League last 20 years.
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Tom Ford said:
You have had to of reached the top of your profession on a number of occasions to be true world class which means winning the League.. Champions League or World Cup.. World Class is bandied about far too easily in modern football these days and is a level not a performance.
Not been that many true world class players in this League last 20 years.
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So if Haaland just played for Molde forever and Norway never won anything he isn’t a world class footballer, despite being the exactly same player ?
 
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