PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Blue_Lightsaber]

How long does it take to place an independent regulator anyways?

 

[Bodicoteblue]

I asked a dipper this at kids footy this morning.

“Being cunts” was his response.

I got off.

If ‘being cunts’ is a chargeable offence ask him if he knows why his club haven’t been charged.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

If ‘being cunts’ is a chargeable offence ask him if he knows why his club haven’t been charged.

It’ll be something to do with Merseyside’s Police force being blind.

 

[LeonardoDaVnci]

COULD WE FACE A COMPO PILE ON ?

Two rulings were published yesterday. The "other one" has gone under the radar. It was triggered by a formal complaint to the PL by five clubs and was also referred to an Independent Commission (IC).

The five clubs Inc Leeds, Burnley etc requested 2 rights.

1 To be active participants in the IC hearing against Everton. NOT ALLOWED.
2 To establish the right to claim compensation against EFC if found guilty of gaining a sporting advantage. ALLOWED.

According to PL rules the 5 clubs must submit their compensation claims within 28 days.

How many clubs have filed a complaint to the PL seeking compensation against MCFC just in case we are clobbered ?. Why is it not in the public domain. Eg Any club that finished 5th and missed out on a CL place.
if the club are now getting twitchy we may see signs of resilience planning. For example if KDB was transferred to Saudi in January for an amazing fee say £75M.

 

[Norbiton]

You forgot masturbsting naked on a fountain in Madrid.

It was on my bucket list but that box is safely ticked

 

[ancoats]

FFP is now beneficial to us. The rags are snookered because of it.

The thing is the Premier League does not need United anymore, Manchester City and the others sell the TV rights.
It's now Haaland and City that Kids are talking about worldwide, City selling more and more Kits with Haaland and Grealish names on them,

The only thing United and Arsenal sell more off is YouTube hits, I Wonder Why

 

[chaddblue]

Two rulings were published yesterday. The "other one" has gone under the radar. It was triggered by a formal complaint to the PL by five clubs and was also referred to an Independent Commission (IC).
The five clubs Inc Leeds, Burnley etc requested 2 rights.
1 To be active participants in the IC hearing against Everton. NOT ALLOWED.
2 To establish the right to claim compensation against EFC if found guilty of gaining a sporting advantage. ALLOWED.

According to PL rules the 5 clubs must submit their compensation claims within 28 days.

WTF is going on? Why are certain clubs trying to effectively put other clubs out of business? FFS its a sport

 

[Centurions]

Two rulings were published yesterday. The "other one" has gone under the radar. It was triggered by a formal complaint to the PL by five clubs and was also referred to an Independent Commission (IC).
The five clubs Inc Leeds, Burnley etc requested 2 rights.
1 To be active participants in the IC hearing against Everton. NOT ALLOWED.
2 To establish the right to claim compensation against EFC if found guilty of gaining a sporting advantage. ALLOWED.

According to PL rules the 5 clubs must submit their compensation claims within 28 days.

How many clubs have filed a complaint to the PL seeking compensation against MCFC just in case we are clobbered ?. Why is not in the public domain. Eg Any club that finished 5th and missed out on a CL place.

We haven't been found guilty of anything yet so they'd be a bit previous.

 

[Stoned Rose]

The non co operation part gets me thinking, I am assuming by non co operating they mean we failed to hand over financial records to the PL, now assume we are found not guilty of any of the other charges, surely this strengthens our argument to not provide the information requested,

No mate you’d still have to provide what was asked of you.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

The thing is the Premier League does not need United anymore, Manchester City and the others sell the TV rights.
It's now Haaland and City that Kids are talking about worldwide, City selling more and more Kits with Haaland and Grealish names on them,

The only thing United and Arsenal sell more off is YouTube hits, I Wonder Why

Is it because Mark Goldbridge is a superb broadcaster or is it because they might as well be Celtic?

 

[bluemoon32]

WTF is going on? Why are certain clubs trying to effectively put other clubs out of business? FFS its a sport

It hasnt been about sport since the PL was started, ever since that day its been all about the money

 

[Brendan110_0]

WTF is going on? Why are certain clubs trying to effectively put other clubs out of business? FFS its a sport

United and Liverpool turned it into a money making exercise that attracted businessmen to attach themselves to the sport, capitalism has an end, usually ends in ruins.

 

[Bald fraud]

Be interesting to see the atmosphere when we turn up to Goodison this season. Are they going to realise we’re actually on the same side? Doubt it. The rags and their red neighbours will probably get a warmer welcome!

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

Be interesting to see the atmosphere when we turn up to Goodison this season. Are they going to realise we’re actually on the same side? Doubt it. The rags and their red neighbours will probably get a warmer welcome!

It is staggering that supporters of other clubs do not realise what a crock of shit FFP actually is, and the reason why it was brought into being.

 

[Stoned Rose]

We'll only know the what the PL will do for certain, if/when Everton appeal.

We could end up unduly pooing ourselves unnecessarily. We've got until Thursday for Everton to make a move, so we'll know a lot more by then.

HOWEVER, the PL could still take a view on suspending sanctions pending appeals based on the severity of the case/sanction.

Such procedural uncertainty is criminal in such a huge industry. Let's hope the independent regulator is setup soon & has more teeth & integrity than OFCOM & the like.

The vast majority of this thread and posters on it are unduly pooing themselves, mate.

 

[NJMCFC184]

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[abu13]

I realise that this is akin to people pointing at City and shouting "GUILTY!" without knowing the facts of the case, but in respect to Everton posting an approx. 20million loss over 3 years and getting a 10pts league deduction, is it public knowledge as to how much the rags recently failed FFP by (also over 3 years) to receive a 250bag fine?

I only know that it was "very minor", but how minor is "very minor"?

This would be very interesting to know, when we initially failed Uefa's FFP regulations we were hit with a £50 million fine, squad reductions and our books open for investigation.

As far as I recall we thought we were within FFP using Uefa's own tool kit before they moved the goal posts.

Without having the figures to hand lets say we failed by £100 million, in that case we were fined 50% if the overspend, by the same logic the Rags would have overspent by £500k, would they really go through the process over a £500k Overspend? Very doubtful.

Something stinks.

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

Be interesting to see the atmosphere when we turn up to Goodison this season. Are they going to realise we’re actually on the same side? Doubt it. The rags and their red neighbours will probably get a warmer welcome!

Especially if we sing “Champions of fair play, you”ll never sing that”

 

[LeonardoDaVnci]

We haven't been found guilty of anything yet so they'd be a bit previous.

Thats the point I was making, the 5 clubs made their complaints before the IC hearing on EFC. It appears there is a process that has to be followed. Clubs seeking compensation need to establish the right to pursue before hand. The ruling was kept in house by the PL until yesterday. Presumably if EFC were exonerated it would have been buried.

 

[Oyster28catcher]

Just sat down and looked at a few of these allegations. As me Gran used to say, "nothing doing."

1. In respect of each of Seasons 2009/10 to 2017/18 inclusive, the Premier League Rules applicable in those seasons that required provision by a member club to the Premier League, in the utmost good faith, of accurate financial information that gives a true and fair view of the club’s financial position, in particular with respect to its revenue (including sponsorship revenue), its related parties and its operating costs, namely:
(a) for Season 2009/10, Premier League Rules B.13, C.71, C.72, C.75 (amended to C.79 from 10 September 2009 for the remainder of Season 2009/10) and C.80;
(b) for Season 2010/11, Premier League Rules B.13, C.78, C.79, C.86 and C.87;
(c) for Season 2011/12, Premier League Rules B.13, E.3, 4, E.11 and E.12;
(d) for Season 2012/13, Premier League Rules 16, E.3, E.4, E.11 and E.12;
(e) for Season 2013/14, Premier League Rules 15, E.3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.49;
(f) for Season 2014/15, Premier League Rules 16, E.3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.50;
(g) for Season 2015/16, Premier League Rules 16, E.3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.50;
(h) for Season 2016/17, Premier League Rules16, E.3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.51; and
(i) for Season 2017/18, Premier League Rules B.16, 3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.51.

2. In respect of:
(a) each of Seasons 2009/10 to 2012/13 inclusive, the Premier League Rules applicable in those Seasons requiring a member club to include full details of manager remuneration in its relevant contracts with its manager, namely:
(1) for Seasons 2009/10 to 2011/12 inclusive, Premier League Rules Q.7 and Q.8; and
(2) for Season 2012/13, Premier League Rules P.7 and P.8; and
(b) each of Seasons 2010/11 to 2015/16 inclusive, the Premier League Rules applicable in those Seasons requiring a member club to include full details of player remuneration in its relevant contracts with its players, namely:
(1) for Seasons 2010/11 and 2011/12, Premier League Rules K.12 and K.20;
(2) for Season 2012/13, Premier League Rules T.12 and T.20;
(3) for Seasons 2013/14 and 2014/15, Premier League Rules T.12 and T.19; and
(4) for Season 2015/16, Premier League Rules T.13 and T.20.

3. In respect of each of Seasons 2013/14 to 2017/18 inclusive, the Premier League Rules applicable in those Seasons requiring a member club to comply with UEFA’s regulations, including UEFA’s Club Licensing and Financial Fair Play Regulations, namely:
(a) for Season 2013/14, Premier League Rule B.14.6; and
(b) for Seasons 2014/15 to 2017/18 inclusive, Premier League Rule B.15.6.

4. In respect of each of the Seasons 2015/16 to 2017/18 inclusive, the Premier League Rules applicable in those Seasons on Profitability and Sustainability, namely:
(a) for Season 2015/16, Premier League Rules E.52 to E.60; and
(b) for Seasons 2016/17 and 2017/18, Premier League Rules E.53 to E.60.

5. In respect of the period from December 2018 to date, the Premier League Rules applicable in the relevant Seasons requiring a member club to cooperate with, and assist, the Premier League in its investigations, including by providing documents and information to the Premier League in the utmost good faith, namely:
(a) for Season 2018/19, Premier League Rules B.16, B.19, W.1, W.2, W.12 and W.13;
(b) for Season 2019/20, Premier League Rules B.16, B.19, W.1, W.2, W.12 and W.13;
(c) for Season 2020/21, Premier League Rules B.16, B.19, W.1, W.2, W.12 and W.13;
(d) for Season 2021/22, Premier League Rules B.15, B.18, W.1, W.2, W.15 and W.16; and
(e) for Season 2022/23, Premier League Rules B.15, B.18, W.1, W.2, W.15 and W.16

In City we trust. Worst game of battleships ever.