PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[slbsn]

Firstly, I need to say that I am not a lawyer. Secondly, that English is not my first language. However my subjective gut feeling about that Daily Mail article was that it did not clearly enough talk about the In Dubio Pro Reo principle and what should mean for the City case. I thought the article was somewhat written to the taste of the Mail readers who want to see City punished.
Is that completely misunderstood dear Mr. Projectriver?

Well the article was published 18 months before the PL charge so I’d suggest it was ultimately proved to be a solid overview at that stage. As for the legal principles at play, I’d say the Substack was pretty clear on those points but for others to decide.

 

[Dial M 4 Mercer]

Bearing in mind our current form maybe we should (whilst of course making no admissions) just agree a points deduction now. It’s done wonders for Everton’s form.

 

[Oyster28catcher]

Bearing in mind our current form maybe we should (whilst of course making no admissions) just agree a points deduction now. It’s done wonders for Everton’s form.

Or an announcement of more charges. Last season's Giants versus Little Old City was a great response.

 

[M18CTID]

Didn’t realise it had been posted, a legal challenge against FFP and FMV needs to be made. Nick De Marco knows his shit, it only favours the old top four clubs, time it was gone.

And yet by far the most successful club in England over the past 10 years isn’t one of the old top four clubs so I’m not sure FFP has benefited them quite as much as you think. Our neighbours down the road, for example, could arguably have spent more money in the summer but were prevented from doing so not because they couldn’t afford to but because they had to get more players off their books for FFP purposes. A kind of delicious irony, given that they were one of the clubs who were desperate for FFP to be brought in as they stupidly thought it would cement their place at the top table forever.

Edit: Just realised that you’re a Newcastle fan, so I can fully understand your reservations about FFP. We were more fortunate in that we were already well on our way to smashing the old cartel when the rules were brought in, whereas Newcastle were starting from a much lower point in terms of revenues and league position when you were taken over a couple of years ago.

 

[rickmcfc]

Does anyone get the feeling that our punishment is imminent and the club are aware, which has had a direct link to performances on the pitch?

 

[John Wayne]

Does anyone get the feeling that our punishment is imminent and the club are aware, which has had a direct link to performances on the pitch?

No. This is miles away from the mark. We can't be punished without a hearing and the IC panel members haven't even yet been appointed.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

Does anyone get the feeling that our punishment is imminent and the club are aware, which has had a direct link to performances on the pitch?

No - some just aren't good enough - whether they are to be pardoned or face the chair.
Can't use this as an excuse.

 

[Citizen of Legoland]

Does anyone get the feeling that our punishment is imminent and the club are aware, which has had a direct link to performances on the pitch?

You mean it’s not down to having our best midfielder, record striker and best buy of the summer out injured?

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Does anyone get the feeling that our punishment is imminent and the club are aware, which has had a direct link to performances on the pitch?

No.

 

[Random Precision]

And yet by far the most successful club in England over the past 10 years isn’t one of the old top four clubs so I’m not sure FFP has benefited them quite as much as you think. Our neighbours down the road, for example, could arguably have spent more money in the summer but were prevented from doing so not because they couldn’t afford to but because they had to get more players off their books for FFP purposes. A kind of delicious irony, given that they were one of the clubs who were desperate for FFP to be brought in as they stupidly thought it would cement their place at the top table forever.

Edit: Just realised that you’re a Newcastle fan, so I can fully understand your reservations about FFP. We were more fortunate in that we were already well on our way to smashing the old cartel when the rules were brought in, whereas Newcastle were starting from a much lower point in terms of revenues and league position when you were taken over a couple of years ago.

I’m sure Newcastle’s legal Department will be aware of the issues to, given the attempts by the old cartel clubs attempts to restrict our growth in revenues by bringing in FMV too. FFP and FMV are anti competitive and a legal challenge should be made.

Newcastle, last year appointed a lawyer to head up their legal Dept.

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I believe, although I have no inside info, that they are building a case and if pushed to far by the old cartel will go down the legal route. As someone on this forum said the PL are not above the law.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Does anyone get the feeling that our punishment is imminent and the club are aware, which has had a direct link to performances on the pitch?

Think you're onto something here. I noticed that Pannick gave the ball away far too easily on Saturday.

 

[John Wayne]

Think you're onto something here. I noticed that Pannick gave the ball away far too easily on Saturday.

'Pannick' being the apposite word.

 

[Kippax77]

Does anyone get the feeling that our punishment is imminent and the club are aware, which has had a direct link to performances on the pitch?

No, I just think it was very silly of Phil to try shooting from our own penalty area in the last minute

 

[chaddblue]

Does anyone get the feeling that our punishment is imminent and the club are aware, which has had a direct link to performances on the pitch?

No. Even if it was very unlikely the players would know and if they did the news would have got out

 

[nmc]

Does anyone get the feeling that our punishment is imminent and the club are aware, which has had a direct link to performances on the pitch?

No not at all. But PiGMOL are already enforcing the points deduction!

 

[55yr old teenager]

Does anyone get the feeling that our punishment is imminent and the club are aware, which has had a direct link to performances on the pitch?

No

 

[rickmcfc]

Jesus I was only joking

 

[blue for life]

No not at all. But PiGMOL are already enforcing the points deduction!

We are imposing our own points deduction at the moment!!

 

[Eoiyflem]

Does anyone get the feeling that our punishment is imminent and the club are aware, which has had a direct link to performances on the pitch?

Lol

 

[Chris in London]

Think you're onto something here. I noticed that Pannick gave the ball away far too easily on Saturday.

It was undoubtedly Pannick that led to giving away the penalty.