European Super League | ECJ rule that UEFA and FIFA acted unlawfully in blocking Super League (p 29)

Dribble said:
The only way that could happen is if a rival to UEFA & FIFA were setup too, & other global associations joined, so there was another World Cup & another European Championship.

It'd be like the situation with golf, or boxing having about 10 different governing bodies, all with their own champions.

I was talking to a former world champion kick boxing mate of mine a few weeks about this. He was seriously proud of his global champion status until he realised, there were HUNDREDS of other kick boxing world champions at his weight too! :-)
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Where could you find sufficient corrupt people to set up rivals to UEFA and FIFA? - Oooh a general election is on the horizon and a few Tories will be out of work.
 
MCFC Wirral said:
It’s not much of a super league without PSG and Bayern Munich. Grimsby Town will qualify at this rate.
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Well in theory they could under the revised structure. Paris and Munich may change their minds going forward. Keeping ones options open to the possibility of accepting change is maybe best. Personally I think that this will engender a lot of noise and posturing but in the end little in the way of substantive change. But we will see.
 
mexico1970 said:
If I am reading this right then even if you win your own league you will not be guaranteed a shot at the CL/ESL at the top level.

Further guaranteeing the Rats get top billing in perpetuity.
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Yup, three seasons minimum before a Leicester winning the PL could get into the Star League, & they'd have to come in the top two of the Blue & Gold Leagues each following season to get there...

Even more strange is ManUre could be relegated to the Championship, but they'll still qualify for the ESL for three seasons, before any possibility of them having to qualify through their PL league position.

HOWEVER, the whole point of the ESL is to ensure the European elite clubs qualify every season regardless, so they'd probably change their rules to state the G14 qualify every season irrespective of what happens domestically. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠⊙⁠_⁠ʖ⁠⊙⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯
 
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Father Paul said:
Well in theory they could under the revised structure. Paris and Munich may change their minds going forward. Keeping ones options open to the possibility of accepting change is maybe best. Personally I think that this will engender a lot of noise and posturing but in the end little in the way of substantive change. But we will see.
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And if UEFA & FIFA ban all ESL players from their competitions, eg: The Euro's, Olympics & the World Cup etc?
 
Arseholes have come out this morning ditching esl, we, the rags, chels and spursy did it yesterday.

The manslaughterers are conspicuously quiet....... Expect something pro esl by their numerous shills soon?
 
I would be very sceptical about any cross border league or Super League.
Whilst there are many variables between two sports take a look at the abortion that is the United Rugby Championship.
This is a league made up of Irish, Scottish,Welsh, Italian and South African clubs.
No relegation and apart from your local derbies you play each other once.
Poor attendances in South Africa and Wales and getting even worse.
South African teams in the European Cup Competitions.
It is governed by the broadcasters.
An absolute shambles compared to the English and French leagues.
I’m not sure what I’m trying to say here !!!
 
law74 said:
That is what people need to realise, FIFA ultimately organise ALL Association Football, from the Jules Rimet final to the Under 10's game in the park tomorrow morning.
By joining a super league out with the FIFA umbrella you are leaving association football, not just the first, but the club, at all levels.

Not just those competing in the new league, but any and all involved in the club playing outside the FIFA umbrella (play for the Under 17's in an expelled club, expect to be banned from playing for your school etc)
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This isn't the case, is it? The ruling quite clearly reaffirms the primacy of competition law and that UEFA and FIFA do not have the right to prevent clubs from competing in other competitions. UEFA and FIFA do not enjoy a monopoly of football provision.
 
Protein Junkie said:
I would be very sceptical about any cross border league or Super League.
Whilst there are many variables between two sports take a look at the abortion that is the United Rugby Championship.
This is a league made up of Irish, Scottish,Welsh, Italian and South African clubs.
No relegation and apart from your local derbies you play each other once.
Poor attendances in South Africa and Wales and getting even worse.
South African teams in the European Cup Competitions.
It is governed by the broadcasters.
An absolute shambles compared to the English and French leagues.
I’m not sure what I’m trying to say here !!!
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I think you're saying that it's a load of bollocks.
 
Bluesince1979 said:
Dont be fooled by the istree clubs pulling out. They will use this to secure their future in the champs league
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But this ruling has opened Pandora's box. The proposed super league was warned that acceptance of any new tournament would depend ultimately on it satisfying the courts that it met the demands of competition law. This, however, cuts both ways - any attempt to appease the 'istree clubs by securing their future in the champs league would be vulnerable to court action under competition law.
 
StillBluessinceHydeRoad said:
This isn't the case, is it? The ruling quite clearly reaffirms the primacy of competition law and that UEFA and FIFA do not have the right to prevent clubs from competing in other competitions. UEFA and FIFA do not enjoy a monopoly of football provision.
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They can play in rival competitions, but not both.
At the time of the first threatened breakaway, there were no rules in place to stop it.
Now there are.
And it is The Club that will be expelled, not just the first team.
 
Early days but I thought this ruling could be good because it stimies the pl from relegating us in a put up hearing.
City can say our position is we would like to stay with you PL, however if you threaten us with relegation we will have no choice than to speak to the ESL.
So that threat goes out of the window for the PL.
 
law74 said:
They can play in rival competitions, but not both.
At the time of the first threatened breakaway, there were no rules in place to stop it.
Now there are.
And it is The Club that will be expelled, not just the first team.
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That isn't the case either. The point you are missing is that the law is superior to rules made by any governing body in sport. UEFA/FIFA were not wrong to punish clubs because they had not made rules to ban breakaways but because they do not enjoy a monopoly. UEFA, FIFA and any other governing body are not sovereign bodies and their rules are always subject to review by the courts. Furthermore the new competition clearly envisages clubs playing in both the domestic league and the new super league. I doubt their will be much enthusiasm among clubs or fans for any new tournament but FIFA and UEFA had better wake up very quickly to the realisation that they are regulatory bodies with limited powers and not sovereign bodies with powers to do as they please. They organise the game, they do not dictate to its practitioners or its fans.
 
Norman kneejerk said:
Early days but I thought this ruling could be good because it stimies the pl from relegating us in a put up hearing.
City can say our position is we would like to stay with you PL, however if you threaten us with relegation we will have no choice than to speak to the ESL.
So that threat goes out of the window for the PL.
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The ESL has to abide by the law just as much as UEFA. UEFA fell foul of competition law. So if City were expelled from the PL would the ESL not fall foul of competition law if they offered us a place in the ESL?
 
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