Joey Barton

mattcity5 said:
That's what I was trying to find out. It's not a phrase I use so not sure why/when others do. You could be right. It just seems to me though used when someone is being a decent person, so not sure why they should be called out for it.
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You can be a decent person without going out of your way to make sure everyone knows how decent you are.

In fact the more decent a person I'd say the less likely they are to have to publicise it.
 
moomba said:
You can be a decent person without going out of your way to make sure everyone knows how decent you are.

In fact the more decent a person I'd say the less likely they are to have to publicise it.
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I'm sure you're not far off with that.

I'm exaggerating here, but it also sounds a bit like people need to keep quiet about the decent things they do. I know the British way is to be fairly modest, but it's a very fine line between virtue signalling and just being a decent person isn't it?
 
moomba said:
You can be a decent person without going out of your way to make sure everyone knows how decent you are.

In fact the more decent a person I'd say the less likely they are to have to publicise it.
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If this is the definition, what do you think that Lineker has over-publicised?

Do you mean the episode where he felt sorry for the asylum seekers on Twitter, so the attack pack suggested that he use his house to take them in and he subsequently did?

What other things has he self-publicised?
 
There are some seriously self-opinionated, self-important posters on this thread
who just refuse point blank to even listen, never mind accept that there
might just be an alternative point of view from their own.

bigot. / (ˈbɪɡət) / noun. a person who is intolerant of any ideas other than his or her own, esp on religion, politics, or race.
 
PPT said:
There are some seriously self-opinionated, self-important posters on this thread
who just refuse point blank to even listen, never mind accept that there
might just be an alternative point of view from their own.

bigot. / (ˈbɪɡət) / noun. a person who is intolerant of any ideas other than his or her own, esp on religion, politics, or race.
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I guess that’s why they don’t like Mr Lineker.
 
mattcity5 said:
Not sure if that's directed at me, I guess it must be seeing as I'm the only one who quoted the dictionary...?

However I've not been irate and not called anyone gammon, so I'm not sure. You'd probably call me more of a "snowflake", but whatever, it's a bit irrelevant.

Biggest difference between Lineker and Barton is that Lineker mostly calls out people in power, while Barton just punches downwards. Shouldn't be surprised though, it's how he's always been.
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Cheers - at least you're civil. Punches downwards, I'll inform Eni.
 
Keeper! said:
No opinion is immune, it's an opinion nothing more, nothing less.

But we now live in a world where we are told what to think and that is very wrong and unhealthy.
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I'm not sure what part of history you believe existed where people had greater freedom from being told how to behave or think than we do now. It wasn't that long ago this country chemically castrated men for being gay, forcibly adopted children of unmarried mothers, deported people for wanting to organise a trade union and jailed women for fighting for the vote. Having your opinion criticised or contradicted is not the same. That is healthy discussion.
 
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