PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Chipmeister]

There is a very clear anomaly here and surprisingly or not, NO journalist has reported it. Although it has been touched on here.
A number of charges date back to 2009/10 - 2013 which precludes FFP introduced 2014 and the even later introduction of PSR.
So if the charges pre 2014 are of a financial matter then the issue is not of non compliance with any FFP rules but surely a criminal matter, fraud and the TAX authorities or Police should be investigating not the Premier League.
Think about that for a minute. Case dismissed.

 

[Dirty Harry]

Of course they did…..

Surely he’ll be a witness for the prosecution.

Maybe seeing Masters and Parry in court being humiliated has sent him over the edge ?

 

[feedmpenzaandhewillscore]

There is a very clear anomaly here and surprisingly or not, NO journalist has reported it. Although it has been touched on here.
A number of charges date back to 2009/10 - 2013 which precludes FFP introduced 2014 and the even later introduction of PSR.
So if the charges pre 2014 are of a financial matter then the issue is not of non compliance with any FFP rules but surely a criminal matter, fraud and the TAX authorities or Police should be investigating not the Premier League.
Think about that for a minute. Case dismissed.

is this a criminal case or a civil case? If it’s criminal the PL can look back as far as they want. If it’s not deemed any law breaking has taken place the limitations act kicks in at the point of discovery which is the Der Spiegal articles. I imagine this is probably what the back and forth with the Premier League is all about.

 

[CC1]

Sorry if this had already been covered, but do we know who is representing each side in the IC panel?

 

[remember arthur mann]

Every knob I the land going overboard on why the hearing date is secret.
Staggering.

 

[LangleyBlue1970]

It’s funny on RAWK. They’re praising Harris and his continued obsession to see us ruined. Hes like some god-like hero to them, infact if the worst happened I envisage a statue outside murderfield.

Someone on there has also predicted a 40 point deduction, and then, through sheer paranoia, says it won’t be dished out until a season is deemed where we wouldn’t win the PL anyway, so it looks like we’ve been punished but everyone saves face.

What a fucking weird bunch of people they are on there.

 

[BringBackSwales]

It’s funny on RAWK. They’re praising Harris and his continued obsession to see us ruined. Hes like some god-like hero to them, infact if the worst happened I envisage a statue outside murderfield.

Someone on there has also predicted a 40 point deduction, and then, through sheer paranoia, says it won’t be dished out until a season is deemed where we wouldn’t win the PL anyway, so it looks like we’ve been punished but everyone saves face.

What a fucking weird bunch of people they are on there.

It begs the question why would you want to go on there pal?

 

[blueju]

Is this the Harris that was laughed out of court for calling himself an expert or is that the other Harris?

Rolf?

 

[blueste41]

Exactly, so if we're being accused of inaccurate accounting, doesn't that amount to fraud?

If so, why haven't UEFA or the PL never levelled that term at us, & called in the Plod?

They may well do!
It's not unusual for an organisation to expose criminality and then pass their evidence to the police who then prosecute on the basis of the information provided.
No better example of that currently than the post office scandal!

 

[mancboy]

It begs the question why would you want to go on there pal?

i went on there for literally 30 secs and they are so disassociated from reality it made my brain hurt

 

[remember arthur mann]

This is getting quite irritating now, what's all this about City? Is it not Manchester United(spit), Everton and Forest who have been found to fail FFP, not us.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

It’s funny on RAWK. They’re praising Harris and his continued obsession to see us ruined. Hes like some god-like hero to them, infact if the worst happened I envisage a statue outside murderfield.

Someone on there has also predicted a 40 point deduction, and then, through sheer paranoia, says it won’t be dished out until a season is deemed where we wouldn’t win the PL anyway, so it looks like we’ve been punished but everyone saves face.

What a fucking weird bunch of people they are on there.

Victims and vindictive.
A vile (in) breed.

 

[M12Blue]

I've tried to avoid this thread, as it just gets my head spinning. However having popped on again it seems as mad as ever.

My understanding of pages in tge distant past is that we are being done for false accounting, fraud which is a criminal offence. So my question is why aren't the police and hmrc all over us, as surely PL have a duty to refer us at the onset of suspicion.

 

[LangleyBlue1970]

It begs the question why would you want to go on there pal?

I like watching (certain) others suffer.

 

[JOGAMIGMOG]

I've tried to avoid this thread, as it just gets my head spinning. However having popped on again it seems as mad as ever.

My understanding of pages in tge distant past is that we are being done for false accounting, fraud which is a criminal offence. So my question is why aren't the police and hmrc all over us, as surely PL have a duty to refer us at the onset of suspicion.

And our accounts had been audited by world-renowned auditors. CAS have already stated there’s nothing to see here and yet still the fuckwits at the Premier League poke their shitty stick at us.
Fuck em. It’s just making us stronger.

 

[Invisible Man's Bandage]

The PL / Masters in full scale retreat unsurprisingly. The Law of Unintended Consequences and all that....

 

[WRicko]

They may well do!
It's not unusual for an organisation to expose criminality and then pass their evidence to the police who then prosecute on the basis of the information provided.
No better example of that currently than the post office scandal!

Sarcasm ?

 

[dadnlad]

The PL / Masters in full scale retreat unsurprisingly. The Law of Unintended Consequences and all that....

goal posts are moving yet again who's in danger of failing PSR this time

 

[Ric]

I do fear it's going to be a stitch up and they'll want to appease the outpouring of anger. So no matter what evidence we provide, and with it being on the balance of probabilities, they'll move to the side of us being guilty of some of it.

It should be a proper independent court with recourse to the English courts. Not some poxy panel who will be influenced by the league, other clubs, their own bias and what's in the media.

I can understand why some people fear a stitch-up, but it's going to be a long 18 months or so if you start heading down that rabbit hole. That way madness lies. Until we see anything to suggest the contrary, I'm going to assume that the panel will be independent and that we will get a fair hearing. Otherwise, what's the point in any of this? Personally, I think there is far too much at stake, on numerous levels, for the panel just to hand out some arbitrary punishment to us in order to appease certain parties. The fallout from a guilty verdict will be huge, so they'd need cogent evidence that holds up to extensive scrutiny.

 

[blueste41]

Sarcasm ?

No, IF they find and prove evidence of fraud I suspect they will hand their evidence to the police. But I was talking generally, in this case I don't think such evidence exists.