United Thread - 2023/24

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Oh dear. Dirty fucking Gas club.

Now the plan becomes clear.
He starts fracking in Carrington, subsequently the swamp really does fall down due to the tremors it causes.
Cue this is mansheyoonytid we’re talking about - National treasure (I have just been sick in my mouth) government step in with grants to rebuild the theatre of screams.
SCUM.
 
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So much bollox typed into one paragraph,I'll just list what sprang out immediately

1. 'Tottenham just behind United in financial terms' - in what parallel world of facts is this from?
2. 'No one benefits more from FFP than Tottenham' - other than City, and a host of other undebt laden well run clubs in the PL.
3. '20 year huge infrastructure projects' - errr, if only i could think of another team that has spent so much time and continues to on infrastructure.
4. 'They go from also-rans' - whatever your opinion on Tottenham, this is just sheer arrogance personified by united (other red shirts are available) fans.
5. 'No way back for City & Chelsea if regulated' - Well, maybe for Chelsea, as they've bet the house on CL football for the next 3 years (unlikely), and are only potentially saved by the Club World cup in 2025. City, we welcome fair unbiased regulation, like a Govt quango, unlike united...
6. '...don't have the fanbase' - ah still living in the 00's, under a Giggs duvet.
7. '...don't have the infrastructure' - clearly hasn't been seeing the City complex arise, the Coop arena, the North stand expansion and facilities. Living on in hope that the scaffold can hold together till the next lot of govt money (again) for a revamp.
8. 'the fans they gained in 20 years will disappear' - on what basis, other than wishful thinking on so many things.
9. 'Neither club has appeal to sponsors' - oh no! actual facts spoil this one as well.
10. 'Then they just average stadium revenues' - yes that's right, the North stand expansion will mean lower revenues as the attendance figure rises to... oh Arsenal's level.
11. 'Liverpool always compete at top' - yes, that's right 'always', except they don't and never have, like every other team. 'Always' is by far the most overused bollox word.
12. 'Traditional post-war clubs come together to restore order' - lol...to continue the stitchup for every other club in the entire English pyramid, maybe. Also why have the cut-off post-war, why not go back and start with the beginnings of the football league. Surely the traditional clubs, like Villa, Sunderland etc deserve better than these upstarts like united, liverpool and promoted by brown envelopes Arsenal

sorry for the rant, but god they really are living in cloud cuckoo land
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It appears the Glzers can force Chemical Jim to sell his shares in 18 months…

Glazers can force Jim Ratcliffe to sell Man United stake in 18 months


Aren’t they just the gift that keeps on giving?
 
Was a short filler programme this evening 15mins on itv4, about the arse cheeks rivalry with the ferals. I get the 77 FA Cup final, denying the scousers the treble, but lots of meaningless cup ties, oh and getting beat to hand Leeds the title in 92.

Perhaps the " rivalry" is co's they're both arrogant gobshites!
 
It appears the Glzers can force Chemical Jim to sell his shares in 18 months…

Glazers can force Jim Ratcliffe to sell Man United stake in 18 months


Aren’t they just the gift that keeps on giving?
Just when you thought you couldn’t laugh anymore at them, they do this bless them
 
Think them passing this year accounts PSR and come august there is yet another new PSR regulations coming in and in line with uefa ones! They will spend massive this summer because they've reduced there wage bill by 60m and that means if first year of PSR is 90% of turnover allowed and there turnover will be around 650m next accounts I'd guess means they can spend 100 of millions this summer if Glazers/Ratcliffe want too..
No they can’t, it also includes limited losses not just turnover, they’ve just posted a 3 month loss of around 26m on 157m turnover up to the 30th September. It’s the reason they are hamstrung and restricted from buying players this window.

They’ve over committed on a shite squad and the likely failure to qualify for the CL will fuck them over even more, the interest payments on debts which have increased since Truss completely fucked the economy means they’re truly paying the price in high interest charges.

They’ve got no get out as they have so many wank players on huge contracts who other clubs won’t pay a significant fee for and equally wank players who won’t move because they’re on easy street.

Btw, UEFA PSR started this season at 90%, this August for the 24/25 season its 80%.
 
No they can’t, it also includes limited losses not just turnover, they’ve just posted a 3 month loss of around 26m on 157m turnover up to the 30th September. It’s the reason they are hamstrung and restricted from buying players this window.

They’ve over committed on a shite squad and the likely failure to qualify for the CL will fuck them over even more, the interest payments on debts which have increased since Truss completely fucked the economy means they’re truly paying the price in high interest charges.

They’ve got no get out as they have so many wank players on huge contracts who other clubs won’t pay a significant fee for and equally wank players who won’t move because they’re on easy street.

Btw, UEFA PSR started this season at 90%, this August for the 24/25 season its 80%.

It's not confirmed yet but it your not in Europe it's rumoured to be 85% of turn over on wages! Hate the kunts hope they can't spend a bean in the summer
 
No they can’t, it also includes limited losses not just turnover, they’ve just posted a 3 month loss of around 26m on 157m turnover up to the 30th September. It’s the reason they are hamstrung and restricted from buying players this window.

They’ve over committed on a shite squad and the likely failure to qualify for the CL will fuck them over even more, the interest payments on debts which have increased since Truss completely fucked the economy means they’re truly paying the price in high interest charges.

They’ve got no get out as they have so many wank players on huge contracts who other clubs won’t pay a significant fee for and equally wank players who won’t move because they’re on easy street.

Btw, UEFA PSR started this season at 90%, this August for the 24/25 season its 80%.

Varane leaving on a free, Casimero they are looking to offload after us all being told he was better than Rodri last season. Sancho playing at Dortmund whilst the rags top up his wages, Martial now banished from the first team squad. Maguire now back at first choice when they wanted him gone in August.

Would anyone give them half the money back they payed for Antony? Then you have fake Haaland with his two premier league goals this season. Also the forgotten man Mason Mount that can’t be trusted to start a game. That’s 8 players listed that have bombed, it’s nearly half a squad. They really can’t get any type of cohesive player recruitment going can they?
 
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Today, it reported better revenues and slightly lower pre-tax losses in its first quarter period, ending September 30, 2023.

Total revenues for the period were £157.1m, up from £143.7m, while a pre-tax loss for the period of £32.804m was slightly lower than the £34.370m level the same time last year.

Current borrowings as of September 30, 2023 were $650m, which was unchanged from September 30, 2022.

But the club stated: “For fiscal year 2024, the company is forecasting revenue guidance to be within a range of £635m to £665m from prior guidance of £650m to £680m and adjusted EBITDA guidance to be within a range of £125m to £150m from prior guidance of £140m to £165m, owing to the early Champions League exit and related reduction in Broadcasting revenues".

 
Varane leaving on a free, Casimero they are looking to offload after us all being told he was better than Rodri last season. Sancho playing at Dortmund whilst the rags top up his wages, Martial now banished from the first team squad. Maguire now back at first choice when they wanted him gone in August.

Would anyone give them half the money back they payed for Antony? Then you have fake Haaland with his two premier league goals this season. Also the forgotten man Mason Mount that can’t be trusted to start a game. That’s 8 players listed that have bombed, it’s nearly half a squad. They really can’t get any type of cohesive player recruitment going can they?
All those players you mention in the first sentence apart from McGuire will need replacing and that’s going to cost. They will need a transfer fee of around £30m for Sancho to cover his amortised value at the end of the season, Dortmund won’t play over the odds and the player could ask for compensation as his wages will be significantly less in Germany.

I don’t think any club will pay even half Anthony’s fee and again his amortised vale at the end of the season will be in the region of £55m.

They’ve fucked if they don’t get in the CL but you can bet Masters (aided and abetted by the Redshirts) will be trying to come up with some sneaky rules that allow the Rags to rebuild outside the current framework as long as they’re not in Europe. Let’s hope other Clubs will see any changes in the PSR rules don’t just benefit the Redshirts and are adopted for good business practices, limiting debt would be a great start.

The Turkey’s voting for Christmas has seemingly come home to roost.
 
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