PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

bluemanchester said:
Stefan up against two professional broadcasters did so well that they and the programme producers could only use the "relegation" bit, out of context as expected, in their follow up clickbait advert. I do feel the tide of public and media opinion is changing slowly in our favour. The only thing I didn't realise is Stefan worked alongside that up his own arse, smug, arrogant, big headed, full of his own importance snob known as Alistair. But after todays showing I can disregard and not hold that against him;-)
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Professional broadcasters? You are being too kind.
 
KS55 said:
One essential difference is that UEFA’s investigatory chamber was corrupt.
1. CAS in our interlocutory case (CAS1) were scathing about Leterme and his handling of the case. We only lost that case because CAS ruled that they did not have jurisdiction unless the case was complete.
2. The chamber leaked confidential data to The New York Times and we know who that was.
3. Leterme was until just before the case a paid director of Bayern‘s sustainability board.
4. The contemporaneous case against PSG, also chaired by Leterme, was so corrupt in letting PSG off that the Adjudicatory chamber of UEFA actually appealed against themselves to CAS.
5. I believe UEFA subsequently dispensed with Leterme’s services.
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You forgot point 6 he’s a right little ****.
 
mike1923 said:
The tide is slowly turning against FFP but unbelievably people now think it’s to our benefit, as if we haven’t been fighting it for a decade. It’s hilarious.
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That's because the thick & bitter numpties of the Trafford Tinkers, in particular, have done so shite over the last 11 years.
How often have the media acknowledged what a great club have City been over the last 12 years ?
The trophies are the definition of a successful team. But beneath this is the firm foundation which should ensure future success i.e. the Academy.
How much money has been generated by selling Academy players who are not up to the very high standards that City demand ?
We will probably bank another £40-50 million at the end of this season when (probably) Tommy Doyle, THB & Calum Doyle leave.
This "selling-on" money has largely been ignored.
In fact, the media seem even desperate that our ex-Academy players prosper e.g. with Cole Palmer.
Finally, our recruitment has largely been a success over the Sheik Mansour era.
Compare the number and cost of any failures, with that of our rivals, especially MUFC.
We should even recoup what we paid for Kalvin Phillips, when he leaves.
As long as City are successful, then FFP is the easy scapegoat rather than analyse their own club's cock-ups...
 
abu13 said:
115 breaches, nothing more than mud slinging.
If they had anything of any substance they would have put all their focus into pushing that through, just think, if we have basically committed fraud the number of avenues the PL could have investigated. Players, agents, other clubs, executives, media, accountants, auditors and so on. All it would take is for a whistleblower to reveal evidence to back up the claims. In the last 10 years not one single person has come forward, and bare in mind the incentives that would no doubt be on offer should someone step forward.

It does frustrate me that everyone says we need to prove that we are innocent, why?
We have had allegations levelled at us, it is for the PL to prove we have done something wrong, the ownership is on them.
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'alleged' breaches ;-)
 
Platt Lane 59 said:
I agree that Stefan was very good.
Let's hope the Talk Sport lemmings now realise that Simon Jordan is not a God, but was put back in his box today.
The problem for me, is when other media outlets deliberately cherry pick bits of the discussion, using them as headlines.
I'm not sure that it was a positive move for Stefan to categorically say he thought that relegation was inevitable, if City are found guilty ?
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Agree and disagree. Stephan seemed open and honest. Worked for City in the past, has knowledge and experience relevant to FFP, legal, finance issues etc. I am sure he knew any comments he made would be quoted out of context. Think he is fine to comment as he sees fit. Not an official representative of the club but due to his personal/work experience is able to be much more effective in communicating his views and many City supporters. Hope he rinsed talks port for "expenses"
 
Eric Hitchmough said:
I think Stefan is great, he’s fighting the good fight and eloquently outlines the case.

I just think years of smear campaigns, followed by the PL hand grenade(s), have culminated in us being truly despised.

I’d love to say “I don’t give a fuck” like some on here, but it is exhausting and I do miss the days when football was about the football.
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Don't get me wrong, I think it's gone from like 99% terrible coverage to 90% terrible coverage with a few people who seem to fully understand the case now even if they hope we get done for it. But I reckon there is movement.
 
johnevans said:
True, 'Deano'.

But like The Old Man and all my aunts and uncles would say if they were still around, the UK football media is largely made up of 'gobsh*tes' who are all 'pots for rags'.

'Projectriver's' sterling work, along with 'Prestwichblue', 'Petrusha' and so many others in recent years, sits diametrically opposite the output of these useless media johnnies on the scale of truth and reasoned argument.

So (apart from a few individuals eg Martin Samuel), f**k the sports press in this country. It has shown its true colours, regularly and repeatedly.

When our club gets through all of this garbage and is exonerated, the sports media can face up to the consequences it has helped to sow for English football, along with the Premier League and those venal twunts at Old Trafford, Anfield, The Emirates and White Hart Lane. And I don't expect it will make for a pretty sight to observe.
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I just read a few of the comments on YouTube & the thick fuckers still don’t get it…… after a video by Stefan going to the trouble of explaining it instead I the comments are closer to bullshit spread by Spitty & Ratty. We are guilty, only got away due to time barring, same as Everton & Forest case…….

If you want to make a shit load of money, invest in candles now they are going to go through the roof……
 
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Brightwell Bros. said:
Don't get me wrong, I think it's gone from like 99% terrible coverage to 90% terrible coverage with a few people who seem to fully understand the case now even if they hope we get done for it. But I reckon there is movement.
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There has been movement in the last few weeks.

It’s minor but defo happened, mate.
 
supercity88 said:
It's tough enough to listen to him on the radio, but I had the displeasure of watching on youtube instead and it took everything I had not to punch the screen.

I've listened back just to see if I missed anything initially, and this time didn't watch so my ears were fully engaged! Right at the end, when Stefan is explaining the fact that these accusations would involve a high number of senior executives/board members/official all being part of the conspiracy, Jordan pipes up with "like Enron".

For those that don't know, that is a reference to a major accounting scandal involving widespread fraud. So it was a loaded remark from Jordan.
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So he’s accusing City’s auditors of colluding like Arthur Anderson ?
 
We are becoming the most hated football club in the history of the game , it s a non stop barrage of bile and vitriol , we know success breeds contempt but this is way beyond that , the red'istree clubs and the Premier league have done a brilliant job in stirring up the media.
When you consider the Dippers murdered 39 fans and got every club banned from europe , as far as i can remember they didnt get the hate we are experiencing , but f*ck them all the pundits , media and dickheads on social media they will not take one tiny piece of enjoyment and pride i have been able witness over the last decade , we are the best in the world , so just f*ck every last one of them.
 
CC1 said:
Intelligent people don’t shout; talk over you or spit at you

Stefan played it quietly & perfectly getting in the facts that we needed airing
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Who said anything about talking over people or spitting

I more on about the fact he let Jordan say one or two things that were a dig and simply let it slip

Is that intelligent or keeping it sweet for next time
 
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