Kalvin Phillips

Other than being a bit overweight, and that’s what it was, what else has he done?
I’ve no idea and I don’t think anyone outside of the club knows either.

I’m not criticising him, just pointing out that he has had his fair chance, things haven’t worked out for either party, and I wish him well.
 
It's utterly insane for some people to shown that kind hatred against him.

I mean i know he is not good enough player and that is warrant criticism. But showing that kind of hatred like he killed the hater family member or something it's just becoming pathetic at this point.

People allow themselves to say things on line that they would never in a million years say to the person's face. It's one of the most pernicious effects of the online social media age we now live in.
When I make a post, I read it back and try to ask myself, “Now, would I have the balls to say that out loud?” Not infrequently, I've written something and deleted it. Firstly, because of that, or alternatively, because I believe that it adds nothing to the conversation.
 
I’ve no idea and I don’t think anyone outside of the club knows either.

I’m not criticising him, just pointing out that he has had his fair chance, things haven’t worked out for either party, and I wish him well.
But you did bring up the weight issue. We all knew about that, most of us had got over it, and some of us thought it might have been a gig from Pep at the waistcoat manager regarding his management of our players
 
People allow themselves to say things on line that they would never in a million years say to the person's face. It's one of the most pernicious effects of the online social media age we now live in.
When I make a post, I read it back and try to ask myself, “Now, would I have the balls to say that out loud?” Not infrequently, I've written something and deleted it. Firstly, because of that, or alternatively, because I believe that it adds nothing to the conversation.
Fuck me that’s half my posts gone lol
 
But you did bring up the weight issue. We all knew about that, most of us had got over it, and some of us thought it might have been a gig from Pep at the waistcoat manager regarding his management of our players
We’ve all seen of late certain playing staff having come across as a bit of a dick. Brilliant player though. One of the most important signings of this era.

All I see in Phillips is someone who had the balls to make a move as big as this and believed in his own ability. Someone who was as delighted for his team mates for their achievements as he was his own. Apart from the limited playing time, he has been the ultimate team mate and squad member.

He will shut a few up when his performances at WH continue where he left at Leeds. There is no shame in coming to a club as big as this, with world class players in every position, and not having the ability to match it. He fucking tried it though and leaves with medals and titles he thoroughly deserves.
 
But you did bring up the weight issue. We all knew about that, most of us had got over it, and some of us thought it might have been a gig from Pep at the waistcoat manager regarding his management of our players
It might have been but then he could have just picked up his phone and called Southgate. All I’m saying is that he had enough time to make a positive impression on Guardiola, couldn’t, and so I wish him well.
 
But you did bring up the weight issue. We all knew about that, most of us had got over it, and some of us thought it might have been a gig from Pep at the waistcoat manager regarding his management of our players
I don’t think it was just the weight issue, but perhaps more the fact that Phillips didn’t return early from the World Cup to work on his fitness and try to get into the team when there was a real opportunity for him to do so.

Phillips took the whole period available after the WC as holiday, went to New York and flew back in the day before everyone returned to training. Given that he hadn’t played all season, maybe there was an expectation or hope at the club that he would have skipped the holiday and returned early, got in top shape etc and been ready when we needed him most.
 
I do love reading the new fans on Twitter (NOT the old skool overseas Berts, like a couple of great Chicago lads I met in Gullivers pre Christmas).
Seen them refer to those of us who go to games, and supported us before the 21st century, as ‘Maine Road merchants’
typing it and saying it to our face ....two very different things.

.................love a "massive" Maine Road merchant - Citeh 'til I die
 
I’ve been thinking about this. It hasn’t worked out well for us, or him, with Kalvin, but his conduct has been exemplary. Why would it enter someone’s head to go onto a public forum and say he should give all his medals back? There’s no reason for it, it’s just very bitter and twisted and completely unnecessary. What does any individual gain by him giving his medals back? I’m just pleased for him that he’s go then and wish things had gone better for him.
You've summed it up well in this post and i too wish him well, but the bottom line is Kalvin has not shown enough hunger and desire in the limited minutes Pep has played him.

I hope he does well for West Ham and they want to buy him in the summer, maybe a makeweight in us signing Paqueta? Hmm...
 
With the amount of coaching he has had while he's been with City I think he will leave a better player for it ( you learn plenty in training), not only in his football but how he understands the mental requirements of it all.
I have high hopes that he will do well.
 
I don’t think it was just the weight issue, but perhaps more the fact that Phillips didn’t return early from the World Cup to work on his fitness and try to get into the team when there was a real opportunity for him to do so.

Phillips took the whole period available after the WC as holiday, went to New York and flew back in the day before everyone returned to training. Given that he hadn’t played all season, maybe there was an expectation or hope at the club that he would have skipped the holiday and returned early, got in top shape etc and been ready when we needed him most.
That’s at least rational pal unlike the person who says he should return all his medals
 

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