PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

cheekybids said:
Everyone talks about Ceferin being a lawyer but he’s actually a politician…… a self serving politician who will curry favour & headlines whenever he thinks it serves his purpose.
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Yes, but if he wasn't he would have been dead and buried within a week of taking the job.

When I joined the Swiss/French company I worked for, my new boss, the chairman of the group, gave me a book and said "Read this, you will need it". It was The Art of War by Sun Tzu. I read it and thought why the hell would I need this. It was all clear within the first month.

Ceferin is fighting for what he believes in at UEFA. He is a friend (at the moment) in face of the ESL. I doubt the club are giving up on him just yet. Nor should we as fans. You want UEFA or Ceferin out? That's fine, but beware what comes next.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
I doubt it, as both CAS and even UEFA accepted that Etisalat had met their obligations.
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This is true. Etisalat is a bit of a red herring. But it may be a good idea in your articles to go through Etisalat in more detail for those who don't know it so well. A lot of people believed that snazzy youtube exposé, which was all nonsense.

Your sub-stack is an excellent idea, by the way. We should put them in a separate forum here so people can access them when they want to know more about a particular issue arising from the allegations.
 
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halfcenturyup said:
Yes, but if he wasn't he would have been dead and buried within a week of taking the job.

When I joined the Swiss/French company I worked for, my new boss, the chairman of the group, gave me a book and said "Read this, you will need it". It was The Art of War by Sun Tzu. I read it and thought why the hell would I need this. It was all clear within the first month.

Ceferin is fighting for what he believes in at UEFA. He is a friend (at the moment) in face of the ESL. I doubt the club are giving up on him just yet. Nor should we as fans. You want UEFA or Ceferin out? That's fine, but beware what comes next.
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I don’t have a problem with Ceferin & I prefer to be in UEFA than a new organisation designed by cunts. I have a problem with ‘politics’ as a game, I got burnt in a organisation you described from liars & cheats. I know I’m naive but I just can’t stand it. I like people to say what they mean & held responsible for it.
 
halfcenturyup said:
Yes, but if he wasn't he would have been dead and buried within a week of taking the job.

When I joined the Swiss/French company I worked for, my new boss, the chairman of the group, gave me a book and said "Read this, you will need it". It was The Art of War by Sun Tzu. I read it and thought why the hell would I need this. It was all clear within the first month.

Ceferin is fighting for what he believes in at UEFA. He is a friend (at the moment) in face of the ESL. I doubt the club are giving up on him just yet. Nor should we as fans. You want UEFA or Ceferin out? That's fine, but beware what comes next.
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David Gill is the one opposing him,and we are all know what a fine upstanding character he is.
 
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cheekybids said:
I don’t have a problem with Ceferin & I prefer to be in UEFA than a new organisation designed by cunts. I have a problem with ‘politics’ as a game, I got burnt in a organisation you described from liars & cheats. I know I’m naive but I just can’t stand it. I like people to say what they mean & held responsible for it.
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I can understand that, and more. It's just the way of the world, though. It was no criticism of you or your point of view, more of a general comment :)
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
I've done the first of a series of pieces on my blog about the first group of charges, which are seemingly all connected to the Etihad & Etisalat sponsorships.

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Manchester City’s PL charges explained – Part 1

Accounts, sponsorships and related parties
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Thanks for that, will reread whilst my kids are doing their gym club later this morning. One initial thought though:

Rule B.13 requires all clubs to behave with utmost good faith to the league and the other clubs.

So where does that put the clubs who signed a letter asking for us to be punished immediately, to their own benefit, before the case was heard? Fanciful I know, but wouldn't it be something if we were not charged with a single offence, yet nine other clubs were...
 
bluetonium said:
Thanks for that, will reread whilst my kids are doing their gym club later this morning. One initial thought though:

Rule B.13 requires all clubs to behave with utmost good faith to the league and the other clubs.

So where does that put the clubs who signed a letter asking for us to be punished immediately, to their own benefit, before the case was heard? Fanciful I know, but wouldn't it be something if we were not charged with a single offence, yet nine other clubs were...
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I’d like to add to that point. If it’s found 2 clubs interviewed a prospective candidate asking if they are willing to charge City. Or that a group of clubs have conspired to bring our downfall & colluded with the media to inflict reputational damage could they be charged?
 
Bez said:
Spot on. All I can find online is the Premier League declined to comment when they were asked the same question. Without clarity from the PL, the breach by Man Utd not being charged looks like a sham to me. Who does the PL chairperson support? Man Utd.
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....and #NeverCenturiansorTrebleWinnersPool.

These two arses of the same cheek demanded and were granted a veto on Masters during the recruitment process.


This was following the resignation of the lady CEO, after a very short period in office, who stated as part of her resignation statement, that some clubs had an unhealthy influence over PL policy and decisions.

Transfer & dippers got their puppet and an attack dog against City.

He'll be gonzo in flames when City win the case,FFP is re ordered and other lap dog clubs realise how they've been had over by the self serving, entitled yanks !!

Fuck em mi Lord, fuck em !!
 
Gone for a Burton said:
....and #NeverCenturiansorTrebleWinnersPool.

These two arses of the same cheek demanded and were granted a veto on Masters during the recruitment process.


This was following the resignation of the lady CEO, after a very short period in office, who stated as part of her resignation statement, that some clubs had an unhealthy influence over PL policy and decisions.

Transfer & dippers got their puppet and an attack dog against City.

He'll be gonzo in flames when City win the case,FFP is re ordered and other lap dog clubs realise how they've been had over by the self serving, entitled yanks !!

Fuck em mi Lord, fuck em !!
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Transfer = The rags !!
 
halfcenturyup said:
This is true. Etisalat is a bit of a red herring. But it may be a good idea in your articles to go through Etisalat in more detail for those who don't know it so well. A lot of people believed that snazzy youtube exposé, which was all nonsense.

Your sub-stack is an excellent idea, by the way. We should put them in a separate forum here so people can access them when they want to know more about a particular issue arising from the allegations.
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Great idea to have a separate forum! Be good to quickly be able to look over something in relation to the charges etc
 
Chappie said:
David Gill is the one opposing him,and we are all know what a upstanding character he is.
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Yep swap one corrupt kunt for an even worse one who wants to do us! Gill gets in he will change rules regarding how clubs own % of other clubs and youth players in your clubs you own! Gill is all in it for his team not interested in fair!
 
christopp said:
Great idea to have a separate forum! Be good to quickly be able to look over something in relation to the charges etc
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FAQs maybe, like:

What are the charges?
Do they represent fraud?
If it's fraud why isn't this in a criminal court?
Do the allegations imply breaching FFP?
Are any of the Pl allegations time-barred?
What is Etihad about?
What is Etisalat about?
What is Mancini's contract about?
What is the image rights issue?
How long will it take?
What is likely to happen?

And general background:
When was FFP introduced by UEFA and the PL?
What are UEFA's FFP rules?
What are the PL's FFP rules?
What was the 2014 settlement about?
Why was the club banned from the CL in 2019?
What did CAS say about UEFA's case?

Edit: I could volunteer to make a start on some of them if people think it is a good idea. Would have to be checked by people smarter than me, of course. @Ric , what do you think?
 
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cheekybids said:
I’d like to add to that point. If it’s found 2 clubs interviewed a prospective candidate asking if they are willing to charge City. Or that a group of clubs have conspired to bring our downfall & colluded with the media to inflict reputational damage could they be charged?
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Eight PL clubs signed a public letter to the media demanding we should be sanctioned BEFORE our appeal to CAS and without any investigation by the PL. This is proven collusion yet they have faced no consequences so far.
 
Bez said:
Spot on. All I can find online is the Premier League declined to comment when they were asked the same question. Without clarity from the PL, the breach by Man Utd not being charged looks like a sham to me. Who does the PL chairperson support? Man Utd.
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eeerrrrmmmmmm ...... yes
 
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bobbyowenquiff said:
Eight PL clubs signed a public letter to the media demanding we should be sanctioned BEFORE our appeal to CAS and without any investigation by the PL. This is proven collusion yet they have faced no consequences so far.
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For the sake of accuracy, it was 9 clubs and it was a legal filing and not a letter to the media.
Also, it wasn't demanding a sanction but requesting the CAS decision was not delayed by beyond the season end by appeal.

From CAS:

32. On 9 March 2020, 9 Premier League clubs filed an application for intervention (the
"Application for Intervention"), pursuant to Article R41.3 and R54 CAS Code for the
limited purpose of opposing any possible application by MCFC to request for a stay of
execution of the Appealed Decision. The clubs that jointly filed the application for
intervention were the following: i) Arsenal Football Club PLC; ii) Burnley Football &
Athletic Company Limited; iii) Chelsea Football Club Limited; iv) Leicester City
Football Club Limited; v) Liverpool Football Club Limited; vi) Manchester United
Football Company Limited; vii) Newcastle United Football Company Limited; viii)
Tottenham Hotspur Football & Athletic Co Ltd; and ix) Wolverhampton Wanderers
Football Club (1986) Limited.

The clubs got it horribly wrong though the busy bastards:

36. On 3 April 2020, the CAS Court Office info1med the 9 Premier League clubs that no
application for a stay of execution of the Appealed Decision had been filed and that
their Application for Intervention was therefore moot.
 
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