The Title Race - 2023/24

How many points will be needed to win the league?

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gordondaviesmoustache said:
To be pessimistic isn’t definitively the human condition. We are all different in that respect at least.

It’s this deployment of the word ‘realism’ from those of a pessimistic disposition that especially gets on my tits, because their perspective goes against the weight of experience in recent years.So they don’t have a monopoly on reality, just their own perception of it.

And I haven’t stridently predicted we will win it, just that we can and imo it’s likely we will. That doesn’t make me blindly optimistic, just applying common sense and experience to the equation.
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Humans are psychologically wired to expect the worst-case scenario. It is a defence/survival mechanism.
Peeps need to rationalise their fear of failure.
Just humans doing human!
 
burning blue soul said:
Humans are psychologically wired to expect the worst-case scenario. It is a defence/survival mechanism.
Peeps need to rationalise their fear of failure.
Just humans doing human!
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I don’t agree. Plenty of people are inveterate risk takers who think that everything will work out fine, or come good in the end. They often take irrational risks because they assume that those risks will bear fruit. If humans were exclusively psychologically wired to expect the worst case scenario then no one would gamble, for example.
 
Alfie Budd said:
12 months ago today we drew at Forest and the doom merchants were out in force. Not promising this season will have the same outcome but way too soon to be coming to conclusions now with the inevitable twists and turns still to come.
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Absolutely!

We've been here many times now, so anyone flapping and mithering needs to gird their cojones (or else whatever it is that the ladies gird!) and get a grip.

I posted the following in January 2019 when we were in a worse position than now. It's still relevant today and that season turned out all right I think!:

"Taking out the odd international commitments the squad has, as far as the Premiership is concerned we are now in a 14 game season. I know we're 5 points adrift but that equates to a 2-game shift for us to take over Liverpool. If Pep, his team and the squad get their individual and collective acts together (please! no more 'Newcastles', lads!), anything can happen, especially if The Anfield Road Formation Brick Throwing Society continues to run into pesky, insurmountable obstacles such as long grass, snow on the pitch, goalkeepers who refuse to throw the ball into their own nets and so on..

As for the domestic cup competitions, well, we have a one-off final due and potentially 4 FA cup ties to win that trophy. That would be 19 games between now and 18 May, 15 weeks from now. Just over 1 game per week on average. Add in the Champions League, a run of 7 games to the final on 1 June would change that to 26 games in 19 weeks, or 1.5 games per week on average.

Keep the players fit, get them ticking over like last season and, as I said above, anything can happen.

It will be tough and demanding on the squad but anything can happen.

But most of all, we never should never give up on the title until it's over. And that's 'never' as in 'ever'.."
 
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117 M34 said:
We absolutely can not lose at anfield.
If they beat us, they will win the league
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Even a draw would leave it out of our hands. That's the main pisser from yesterday. Before kick off, we knew that if we matched the cultists' results up to the game at Anfield, a draw would have been fine. Not now.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
I don’t agree. Plenty of people are inveterate risk takers who think that everything will work out fine, or come good in the end. They often take irrational risks because they assume that those risks will bear fruit. If humans were exclusively psychologically wired to expect the worst case scenario then no one would gamble, for example.
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We work on the majority principle. There's always exceptions to the rules.
However, gambling is in everyone to a greater or lesser extent. Same as optimism and pessimism.
It's all down to the individuals internal psychological risk assessment.
Most err on the safe side of pessimism.
 
citymad said:
I agree, Doku, Kovacic and Nunes have not improved us one iota. We just don’t have that fire power and defensive stability this season.
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I said at the time along with many others that out transfer window was terrible.

Gundogan > Nunes
Mahrez > Doku
Palmer > Kovacic
Laporte <> Gbardiol

Our lack of a top level central midfielder replacement for Gundogan has really hurt us
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
It’s not fair enough though, is it? it’s actually completely unfair, ungracious and disrespectful to a group of players that have given us so much. Thank fuck the players aren’t as mentally weak as so many posters on here.

Like @urban genie said, what the fuck are this tedious lot going to be like when we inevitably fall away when Pep leaves? Needy and boring as fuck is the simple answer.
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I’m keeping the faith, mate. :-)
 
Withnail said:
We are definitely still in the race, but I have concerns about the chances we concede to our opponents eg Chelsea had several opportunities to score yesterday on the break. Defensively we need to improve, playing Stones if fit is a must imo. By the end of March we will know if we can still win the League.

Winning the CL and the FA Cup wouldn't be the worst season.
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Would be a bloody amazing season
 
only winning one game (rags away) from all this is concerning:
Chelsea away
Chelsea home
Pool home
Spurs home
Villa away
rags away
Arsenal away

last season we literally won all of these except Villa away was a draw and rags away was a referee cheating loss.
16 points from 21 last season of above 7 games, quite great return.
this season its 7 points from 21.
 
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