Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

[Citizen of Legoland]

I'm wondering how dear it would be to build a platform (well two) ?
I'm thinking, build a station on the line that runs past the Athletic Stadium.
And surely it can still be used on none match days too , ie re-route some services or new ones like say ,Glossop to the Airport via Victoria?

Possibly up to £100million for a station. I think Headbolt Lane near Kirkby was £80million.

That said, Railfuture.org says approx £12 million for a two platform station with footbridges etc though so not sure why Headbolt cost so much.

 

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[LEXSTARproject]

I'm wondering how dear it would be to build a platform (well two) ?
I'm thinking, build a station on the line that runs past the Athletic Stadium.
And surely it can still be used on none match days too , ie re-route some services or new ones like say ,Glossop to the Airport via Victoria?

@kev20971 that is what I was trying to say in my post above

Manchester City is running a bus service now with TFM, so why not take over the line that runs from Beswick Arches(easily convert them into a station with a park and ride and a walkway to Ashbury(Main Line Station) to Athletic Stadium and has a shuttle train that can run back on forward.

When the COOP live was announced they should have started to build hotels etc then

 

[LEXSTARproject]

Possibly up to £100million for a station. I think Headbolt Lane near Kirkby was £80million.

That said, Railfuture.org says approx £12 million for a two platform station with footbridges etc though so not sure why Headbolt cost so much.

@Citizen of Legoland

You are spot on with your costs, it is because it is a station not just a holt as they call it which is just a platform, bridge lift, etc

 

[Spanishbob]

A monorail from the stadium to sale would have been perfect when i lived here and if memory serves me right in the 1970s there was talk of one from town along princess parkway to wythenshawe.

 

[kurious oranj]

I'm wondering how dear it would be to build a platform (well two) ?
I'm thinking, build a station on the line that runs past the Athletic Stadium.
And surely it can still be used on none match days too , ie re-route some services or new ones like say ,Glossop to the Airport via Victoria?

They are building a station in Cheadle with one platform at the moment and that will cost £8 million. iirc

 

[LEXSTARproject]

Footage via CP Overview @Mike Mannion @Citizen of Legoland @jrb @kev20971

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South Side

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

sure someone posted in this thread a few weeks back where a question was asked to Burnham on X (may be wrong it was him) about train expansion in the area

And he give a reason why it couldn't.

 

[berryblue]

Possibly up to £100million for a station. I think Headbolt Lane near Kirkby was £80million.

That said, Railfuture.org says approx £12 million for a two platform station with footbridges etc though so not sure why Headbolt cost so much.

Scouse accountants.

 

[Citizen of Legoland]

Footage via CP Overview @Mike Mannion @Citizen of Legoland @jrb @kev20971

North Side

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South Side

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It's not a disused line. They run freight trains along it and also move engines into the maintenance depots at Newton Heath and Ardwick - the latter is seen to the left of the circle in the bottom screenshot (big white building). Sometimes trains run from Piccadilly into Ashburys, then reverse back up the line, so there's a lot going on that is critical to running the network around the city.

 

[MadchesterCity]

“Shared moments of wonder and joy”. This is an embarrassment for City. They can sell it all they want, they’ve been told to do one. No new rail network, despite existing infrastructure - confirmed by Andy Burnham (not that he needed to, has zero powers anyway). No improvements to the Met, which continue to operate a normal service even on a matchday. Instead, they’re lighting up the existing walkway to the ground

United on the other-hand have just had approval from Trafford Council to make dramatic changes to Old Trafford and the surrounding area. It already has 3 different Met lines running past the ground, a rail track and one of the main arteries (Chester Rd) supporting the area. Not to mention MediaCity and Salford Quays.

City needed more than a few jazzy street lamps.

It’s a fucken disgrace

 

[MadchesterCity]

It's not a disused line. They run freight trains along it and also move engines into the maintenance depots at Newton Heath and Ardwick - the latter is seen to the left of the circle in the bottom screenshot (big white building). Sometimes trains run from Piccadilly into Ashburys, then reverse back up the line, so there's a lot going on that is critical to running the network around the city.

Excuses excuses, just get it sorted, matchday specials, direct train to Aberdeen and London by start of next season now that they’ve screwed everyone on parking.

 

[eyalluvitt]

12 mins from Piccadilly right to the stadium entrance, on existing tracks, with existing trains, no roads or infrastructure needed, one 50m platform and stairs/steps/connecting footpath. I'll do it for 1.5 million and two weeks half board in Turks and Caicos.

 

[LEXSTARproject]

It’s a fucken disgrace

You are spot on"Welcome To Manchester" has a new meaning, you have to walk to our stadium but we will give you a fancy light show on a walkway.

If you drive you have to wait 2 hours to exit the car park but you can leave the ground earlier as most fans do.

Here is the answer in this video to service the stadium by train also backed up by the tram and buses.

The trains don't need to run all the time just when concerts or games are on.

But City wants you to hang around the stadium after the game but what there? Maybe something in the future but we can't tell you.

 

[eyalluvitt]

You are spot on"Welcome To Manchester" has a new meaning, you have to walk to our stadium but we will give you a fancy light show on a walkway.

If you drive you have to wait 2 hours to exit the car park but you can leave the ground earlier as most fans do.

Here is the answer in this video to service the stadium by train also backed up by the tram and buses.

The trains don't need to run all the time just when concerts or games are on.

But City wants you to hang around the stadium after the game but what there? Maybe something in the future but we can't tell you.

Two trains shuttling to and from Piccadilly every 6 mins would move a lot of people 2 hours before and the same after games/concerts and Victoria pretty much the same 12mins north from the stadium, or an Etihad/ Piccadilly/Victoria loop

 

[Citizen of Legoland]

I thought the traffic seemed a lot better on Saturday. Probably due to it being a late afternoon kick off and all the shoppers gone by time we were on our way home.

 

[Gone for a Burton]

A monorail from the stadium to sale would have been perfect when i lived here and if memory serves me right in the 1970s there was talk of one from town along princess parkway to wythenshawe.

An (elevated ? ) two way monorail above the route of the canal ?

 

[remember arthur mann]

Two trains shuttling to and from Piccadilly every 6 mins would move a lot of people 2 hours before and the same after games/concerts and Victoria pretty much the same 12mins north from the stadium, or an Etihad/ Piccadilly/Victoria loop

It's feasible, they're just being cnuts.

 

[blueparrot]

Two trains shuttling to and from Piccadilly every 6 mins would move a lot of people 2 hours before and the same after games/concerts and Victoria pretty much the same 12mins north from the stadium, or an Etihad/ Piccadilly/Victoria loop

I have no idea, but those that seem to have posted many times, it isn't as simple as building a plaform and putting trains on. Maybe they are wrong,I don't know but they seem quite knowlegable on the subject.

 

[Citizen of Legoland]

An (elevated ? ) two way monorail above the route of the canal ?

I think if you're going to build a monorail above the canal, elevated would be the best option.