PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

cheekybids said:
It’s very easy to convince a fan of the Dippers, Rags & Arsenal that everything is dodgy with no financial / legal knowledge. However, it’s the job of the KCs to convince experts.

I’ve just had 2 days sparring with a prick who says we are state owned because UAE is an autocratic state but can’t grasp that the legal ownership says it’s entirely different.
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I have a dipper mate who clings to the idea that we're state funded and we outspend them because of it.
The alternative for him is that he has to accept that we've beaten them on the pitch, fair and square.
 
Invisible Man's Bandage said:
I wasn't suggesting he was corrupt but I did say in my post that his disposition to the club might not be good as he has been involved in a high profile case against us. It's pure guesswork on your part that he may have advised UEFA that their case was very weak.
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It was a bit of an uncalled-for blasting, the sort I usually get, :) but I don't think you have anything to be concerned about with Phillips. Lawyers may be blood-sucking leeches but they don't hold grudges (as long as they get paid). This guy will represent UEFA one week, the PL the next and then City the week after. He is admirably suited to the IR role imho, won't take any shit from Masters in any case.
 
halfcenturyup said:
It was a bit of an uncalled-for blasting, the sort I usually get, :) but I don't think you have anything to be concerned about with Phillips. Lawyers may be blood-sucking leeches but they don't hold grudges (as long as they get paid). This guy will represent UEFA one week, the PL the next and then City the week after. He is admirably suited to the IR role imho, won't take any shit from Masters in any case.
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You are almost certainly correct but given a choice (which we don't have) I'm sure the club would prefer an Independent Regulator not to have been involved in an adversarial role in a high profile case against them :)
 
Gingers Dad said:
The club clearly regret the 2014 settlement. They'll fight this to the end. They know they have no choice.
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I'm not so sure the club does regret it. There were a lot of outstanding issues that could have gone either way at the Adjudicatory Chamber and a subsequent CAS appeal. Much more than in 2019, and I imagine with better evidence to support them as well. On the other hand, Infantino didn't seem to have much appetite for a long fight either and the club's threat to challenge FFP in court was an incentive to settle. I imagine both sides were happy with a "political" solution.
 
Invisible Man's Bandage said:
The Telegraph reporting that Mark Phillips KC, who represented UEFA in their case against us, is being lined up to lead the new Government independent regulator.

Hmmmm....that doesn't sound great in terms of his disposition towards the club. In fact it sounds fucking shite.
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No. A lawyer representing your adversary does not usually get involved in that way. They just present their client’s case.
 
halfcenturyup said:
I'm not so sure the club does regret it. There were a lot of outstanding issues that could have gone either way at the Adjudicatory Chamber and a subsequent CAS appeal. Much more than in 2019, and I imagine with better evidence to support them as well. On the other hand, Infantino didn't seem to have much appetite for a long fight either and the club's threat to challenge FFP in court was an incentive to settle. I imagine both sides were happy with a "political" solution.
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Perhaps even some of the things the 115 contain are covered in that Settlement?

Recent financial history makes us not fearing FFP whereas we sailed close to the wind prior to that.
 
Meanwhile, just outside of Manchester, Scruffy Jim, the new owner of the world's most indebted club, Trafford Town FC, has made a huge paper loss on his newly acquired rag shares. Apart from when they play us, we need Villa and Spuds (ouch) to win and knock them out of next years ECL. Hopefully that will swipe another 25% of his portfolio and make him question why the hell he ever thought a background in Chemical Eng and Cycling could save the swampies. ...
 
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KS55 said:
I wouldn’t. He is a formidable opponent. If we fell foul of any regs……
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I'm 100% convinced that we have been squeaky clean for a long time. Unfortunately, a combination of complacency and ineptitude that enabled the hack of millions of unencrypted emails left us open to scrutiny all those years ago.
 
Invisible Man's Bandage said:
I wasn't suggesting he was corrupt but I did say in my post that his disposition to the club might not be good as he has been involved in a high profile case against us. It's pure guesswork on your part that he may have advised UEFA that their case was very weak.
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The man is a lawyer and a very highly qualified and experienced one at that. As such he has to be objective, detached and dispassionate and to view evidence through such eyes. It is unlikely that he has any "disposition" to City and it is unlikely to of any relevance if he has since his job will not be to participate in case after case against City but to regulate the PL. We don't know, at the moment, exactly the details of such a post and must wait for the government to tell us and introduce legislation to set up the post/department. Our political masters are clearly dissatisfied with the situation at the moment and there are enough MPs with an interest in football to ensure that a wide variety of views on it are expressed so the chances of a regulator with scores to settle with City would seem to be negligeable. So, let's calm down and realise that our persecutors aren't hiding behind every tree!
 
StillBluessinceHydeRoad said:
The man is a lawyer and a very highly qualified and experienced one at that. As such he has to be objective, detached and dispassionate and to view evidence through such eyes. It is unlikely that he has any "disposition" to City and it is unlikely to of any relevance if he has since his job will not be to participate in case after case against City but to regulate the PL. We don't know, at the moment, exactly the details of such a post and must wait for the government to tell us and introduce legislation to set up the post/department. Our political masters are clearly dissatisfied with the situation at the moment and there are enough MPs with an interest in football to ensure that a wide variety of views on it are expressed so the chances of a regulator with scores to settle with City would seem to be negligeable. So, let's calm down and realise that our persecutors aren't hiding behind every tree!
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If we are clean, and I’m sure we are, a competent regulator is to our advantage. He will clip the redshirts’ wings and put an end to the nonsense we get from them.
 
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