PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

CC1 said:
He is but he’s not a challenge to Jordan because he’s not particularly pro city
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I think he just deals in facts and information, I’ve never noticed him being pro-any club and I don’t know who he supports- just as an academic should be ! - unlike SJIAC who is a rabidly anti-City twat.
 
invisibleandalone said:
Why are the Premier League so intent on putting diesel into a petrol car tank ?
It just looks like pressing the self destruct button.
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I have said it before, Masters needs to show some balls and make sure that whatever gets voted on is good for the league as a whole. Yes, the clubs get to vote how they want, but he should only be presenting matters for decision that will clearly benefit the league. It's called management. If they don't like it, he can resign.

Might be the best way out for him with some reputation intact, actually.
 
KS55 said:
Not decided yet, I think. The devil is in the detail.
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Surely it has to be net spend?

For example we sell Haaland to Real for £150m and have to spend £120m on his replacement. We should be £30m in profit but if it is gross spend we would have to make do with a Championship striker as otherwise we exceed the spend cap? Doesn't make any sense if its gross and surely even the turkeys won't vote for that.

Villa sold Grealish for £100m to us and bought 4 players and are on the verge of the CL, a gross spend limit would prevent that and the owners would just end up pocketing the money......bet the Glaziers would love that though :)
 
projectriver said:
Well it is true he doesn't ask me for briefings like he does with Kieran. But he does seem to have changed his views on the drivers of FFP despite what he claims to think of things like my Unofficial Partner debate!
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He feels intimidated by you that's why! With Kieran he knows he doesn't know as much and can knock him back knowing if he was wrong he wouldn't correct him just nod! Thing with Jordan is he likes to be the one in the room with all the know how..
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
That’s not right. If Newcastle have a turnover of £250M and are not in Europe, they can spend £187.5M (85% of turnover). If they’re in Europe it’s reduced to 70% of turnover as that turnover is expected to rise, due to being in Europe.

Not sure what happens if you’re in Europe one season, out the next, back in and back out……….
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Well then you are the Hokey Cokey champions, obviously;-)
 
In regards to the wage cap; good.

Footballers are already paid obscene amounts as it is, and if the "best" players are only looking for a massive paycheck to assuage their overinflated ego's before joining, I wouldn't want them anywhere near the club or the League. Rather we get back to training and developing youth talents into superstars, a la Foden and soon to be Lewis, Bobb and Hamilton.

Football needs this if it wants to remain a sport for spectators, supporters, fans and regular folk to enjoy, otherwise it becomes another Formula 1 with tickets costing in their thousands, yet with football we'd have entire stadiums filled with quiet, disinterested tourists. By all means, pay players what they are worth, not what they THINK they are worth and keep that worth grounded in reality.
 
Rory Bluelow said:
I think he just deals in facts and information, I’ve never noticed him being pro-any club and I don’t know who he supports- just as an academic should be ! - unlike SJIAC who is a rabidly anti-City twat.
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He's a Brighton supporter but watched City, the rags and other local clubs when he lived in Manchester. His price of football podcast is an excellent listen, well worth downloading.
 
GXCity said:
Surely it has to be net spend?

For example we sell Haaland to Real for £150m and have to spend £120m on his replacement. We should be £30m in profit but if it is gross spend we would have to make do with a Championship striker as otherwise we exceed the spend cap? Doesn't make any sense if its gross and surely even the turkeys won't vote for that.

Villa sold Grealish for £100m to us and bought 4 players and are on the verge of the CL, a gross spend limit would prevent that and the owners would just end up pocketing the money......bet the Glaziers would love that though :)
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I agree but the PL makes loads of bonkers decisions. Can’t see the rags accepting gross if they are selling half their squad, even if it is for peanuts.
Nor Chelsea.
 
I've just caught up on yesterday's TS and the spending cap discussion. @projectriver congratulations, despite your absence you clearly succeeded in convincing SJIAC to understand the true drivers behind FFP and why it was wrong to start with.

That's something that has been completely lost as football fans up and down the country became amateur accountants and decided spending too much was wrong, without having a clue what it all means.

Newcastle's rise and potential PSR issues have also helped change the rhetoric and enable people to think a little bit more about why the rules are wrong.

It's a slightly uncomfortable position to now be in as a City fan, because we should all be against any fairness and supporting whatever benefits the cartel because we're part of it! But personally I'm all a more fair system, not that this cap is that in any guise.
 
Ducado said:
Under 5 threatens the PL as a salable product I very much doubt it will be, I expect it to be a token amount that won't have any real impact seems like a lot of window dressing
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Depends what the purpose is though. If it’s reining in city AND making piles of cash for some owners, then it’ll be 4.5. If it’s to make the rules easy to understand, without damaging the ‘product’, it’ll be nearer to 6.
I would caution that you can never be sure how stupid people are and, obviously, never underestimate the power of cash!
 
Decepticon said:
Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern and the Italian 3 with the Saudis are laughing their socks off.

How to destroy a successful product in one single stupid decision.

Madness!

Is this an attempt by the big 5 to bring back the discussion for pushing forward with the super league?
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It was/is never going away.
Football in the Premier league is becoming tiresome because of the many rule changes both on and off the pitch.
Is just becoming 1 big game of chess
 
Decepticon said:
Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern and the Italian 3 with the Saudis are laughing their socks off.

How to destroy a successful product in one single stupid decision.

Madness!

Is this an attempt by the big 5 to bring back the discussion for pushing forward with the super league?
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They want us to start shopping.in Lidl instead of harrods is how I see it regardless of how.much money we make
 
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