PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Colin Bell (genuine name) said:
NO EVIDENCE. That was the formal verdict at CAS, the Court of Arbitration for Sport.

NO EVIDENCE means exactly that, NO EVIDENCE. It does not mean that there was lots of evidence and just not enough to convict or that there was a little bit of evidence but nothing near enough to convict. NO EVIDENCE quite clearly means NO EVIDENCE, nil, nada, nothing.

CAS quite categorically stated that there was NO EVIDENCE a number of times(I think it was ten times) and in fact our fine, in a nutshell was for wasting time of the court, as they believed that, had we presented our “Irrefutable evidence” to the UEFA investigative committee, then UEFA would also have been satisfied that there was NO EVIDENCE.

The Premier League opened their investigation into City in March 2019, the day after UEFA started their investigation and it took them nearly 4 years to bring charges, in fact, nearly 3 years after the CAS verdict and coincidentally the day before the Government announced an independent regulator.

City said the charges came as a “complete surprise” which suggests to me that not only do The Premier League have nothing new to present but that the Premier League were also forced to act due to pressure from the cartel clubs.

So no I don’t think any of us are ‘eejits’, I think the vast majority of us trust our owners, their position and their confidence that our name will be cleared.

I also believe that City will not accept a non cooperation settlement as they want to draw a line under this once and for all, hence Tolmie’s “no more ambiguity” quip.
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I love it when a vigourous bumming gets administered on here.
 
Colin Bell (genuine name) said:
NO EVIDENCE. That was the formal verdict at CAS, the Court of Arbitration for Sport.

NO EVIDENCE means exactly that, NO EVIDENCE. It does not mean that there was lots of evidence and just not enough to convict or that there was a little bit of evidence but nothing near enough to convict. NO EVIDENCE quite clearly means NO EVIDENCE, nil, nada, nothing.

CAS quite categorically stated that there was NO EVIDENCE a number of times(I think it was ten times) and in fact our fine, in a nutshell was for wasting time of the court, as they believed that, had we presented our “Irrefutable evidence” to the UEFA investigative committee, then UEFA would also have been satisfied that there was NO EVIDENCE.

The Premier League opened their investigation into City in March 2019, the day after UEFA started their investigation and it took them nearly 4 years to bring charges, in fact, nearly 3 years after the CAS verdict and coincidentally the day before the Government announced an independent regulator.

City said the charges came as a “complete surprise” which suggests to me that not only do The Premier League have nothing new to present but that the Premier League were also forced to act due to pressure from the cartel clubs.

So no I don’t think any of us are ‘eejits’, I think the vast majority of us trust our owners, their position and their confidence that our name will be cleared.

I also believe that City will not accept a non cooperation settlement as they want to draw a line under this once and for all, hence Tolmie’s “no more ambiguity” quip.
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Great post.
(I assume that red **** “Libero” is no longer posting)
 
ayrshire_blue said:
I don't for a second doubt he's only posting what he's been told. I do doubt that it's concrete factual information based on 100% knowledge and isn't simply hopeful messaging from a position of confidence and optimism. There's a distinct difference between the two especially at this stage.
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Tolmie gets info same way as lots of good journalists do, by building contacts over many years.

What I found interesting on Monday, when I bought the broadsheet papers (a tradition when we win something), was that the Times twice mentioned how Pep had been assured by his bosses that City would be cleared.

I wonder if the tide is turning?
 
I suppose this scene from The Battle of Britain sums it up:

Air Vice Marshal Evill: [ACM Dowding is sitting at his desk reading reports. The phone buzzes. AVM Evill picks up the phone] Yes?
[listens]
Air Vice Marshal Evill: Yes, one moment
[turns to ACM Dowding]
Air Vice Marshal Evill: The Air Minister, sir. on the scrambler.
Air Chief Marshall Sir Hugh Dowding: [picks up green scrambler phone] Yes?
Minister: Ah, Dowding. Er. Look. Our people in Washington are having trouble with the American Press. It's about today's figures. German sources there are saying that our claims are wildly exaggerated.
Air Chief Marshall Sir Hugh Dowding: [listens, but says nothing]
Minister: Hello? Are you there Dowding?
Air Chief Marshall Sir Hugh Dowding: I'm here Minister.
Minister: Well I mean, can you verify the figures?
Air Chief Marshall Sir Hugh Dowding: [clears throat] I'm not very interested in propaganda. If we're right, they'll give up. If we are wrong, they'll be in London in a week!
 
OB1 said:
Tolmie gets info same way as lots of good journalists do, by building contacts over many years.

What I found interesting on Monday, when I bought the broadsheet papers (a tradition when we win something), was that the Times twice mentioned how Pep had been assured by his bosses that City would be cleared.

I wonder if the tide is turning?
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Of course he does, I really enjoy his posts on the transfer forum and I refer to him breaking the Haaland exclusive to this day, his information is often bang on and it's great to have him in our corner on here, twitter and wherever else.

I'm only questioning the interpretation of what he's been told, something which he's later taken his time out to clarify in a post to @Invisible Man's Bandage.

The news that we'll be cleared and it'll be this year is "just" (I use the commas, because it's still much bigger information than most of us would be privvy to!) a display of confidence from the club and NOT actual knowledge or factual information which would be different.

With regards to the media, as GDM says I suppose that's subjective. For every article like the one you've read in the times, there's a rant by Syed, Harris, Delaney etc. I'm not sure it's turned in any way so not convinced it's a sign of anything. Others may see it differently of course.
 
eastmanc said:
We wouldn't have extended the North Stand or built a huge indoor arena and a hotel complex if we thought we had done anything wrong.
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Or if we thought we’d get caught!
Look at Las Vegas, do you think the Mafia would have built it if they thought they’d done anything wrong?

I know, I know, rag eejit?

I’m ahead of you. I’ll get me coat.
 
mancboy said:
I dont trust them one bit BUT what is in our favour if they find us guilty of anything then they have to document why and how they have found us guilty and if it is anything but absolutely legally airtight they would get absolutely slaughtered for it, people need to get out of the mindset that its just three guys in a room discussing things and they can say and do what they want with no scrutiny.
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Slaughtered by who?
Us perhaps, if we took them to court, but I wouldn’t be depending on any media to go through the evidence/verdict, forensically.

Headlines is all they’d need.
 
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