Rishi Sunak

[Eebo]

I hadn't twigged that was the interview he left the D-Day Commemorations for.

He's like Frank Spencer, continually stumbling from one disaster of his own making straight into the next one.

He has another 3 weeks of this, his script-writers surely must be running out of material for this daily comedy show?

 

[inbetween]

The state of the country is down to 30 years of mismanagement by successive government's imho.
Proportional representation finally makes sense to me - but you'd never get it through parliament where 75% are simply interested in self preservation
Honestly don't know who I'll vote for - just who I won't!

The fault of years of mismanagement do not lie in the voting system, the fault lies in the simple fact that successive governments are not interested in you or us. Politics today is not about doing better for people, it's about winning a battle against the other party.

Sunak and Starmer are not spending 100% of their energy trying to solve your problems but they should be. For the last few years they have only spent time working out how to win an election. Some on here like that because they're more interested in party politics than problem solving. You only have to turn on Parliament TV to see how they view us because none of the buggers are ever, and then they only come to vote because they're forced to.

Parliament is completely pointless and personally I'm sick of party politics. I'm more in favour of a technocratic government. In the COVID pandemic our health system was run by an economics graduate who had never worked in health, he was put there because he put his party first. That tells you why things go wrong.

No party leader for example wants a transport secretary who tells his/her government that their transport policy is bollocks but that's what's needed but it'll never happen. That's why the railways are broken. Starmer will follow as well, his transport secretary isn't a clued up ex-transport manager, she's an ex-insurance worker and trade unionist who has never worked in transport. What could possibly go wrong?

 

[bluethrunthru]

 

[grunge]

No SKY TV?

Poor kid, what a tough upbringing, there are tears in my eyes just thinking about poor little Rishi and the deprivation of a Winchester College education at £35,000 pa .

You can see why he doesn't give a shit about kids growing up in poverty when he has suffered so much himself.

Lol, Sky TV wasn't even around when he was a kid.

 

[bluenova]

Agree circa 10% is not great but they seem to be doing a much better job of targeting winnable seats and not trying to fight Labour as a realistic alternative government. Last time out they ran a very poor campaign. This time its very focused and when you look at the seat predictions they are punching well above their weight.

Yep - after the election, I'm looking forward to the Greens campaigning side by side with Farage for PR.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

Lol, Sky TV wasn't even around when he was a kid.

To be fair it was, he’d have been 9 when Sky launched in 1989.

Still doesn’t alter the fact he’s a useless fuckwit with no grasp on reality.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Lol, Sky TV wasn't even around when he was a kid.

To be fair he was 8 years old when it began broadcasting but the uptake was quite slow PLUS amongst the "upwardly mobile" it was frowned upon. A big dish attached to the side of the house was deemed very unsightly and working class so what he is highlighting is not deprivation but snobbery

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

Yep - after the election, I'm looking forward to the Greens campaigning side by side with Farage for PR.

Bagsy can I use the water cannon? There’s a few left in London from when Boris was mayor.

 

[hcblue95]

The state of the country is down to 30 years of mismanagement by successive government's imho.
Proportional representation finally makes sense to me - but you'd never get it through parliament where 75% are simply interested in self preservation
Honestly don't know who I'll vote for - just who I won't!

30 years? You're not including Thatcher who sold off all our stuff?

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

To be fair he was 8 years old when it began broadcasting but the uptake was quite slow PLUS amongst the "upwardly mobile" it was frowned upon. A big dish attached to the side of the house was deemed very unsightly and working class so what he is highlighting is not deprivation but snobbery

Rishys school fees were significantly more than the average cost of a house.

No sky TV my arse.

 

[grunge]

To be fair it was, he’d have been 9 when Sky launched in 1989.

Still doesn’t alter the fact he’s a useless fuckwit with no grasp on reality.

Technically 84 for Sky TV as it used to be on cable in very limited areas of the country but Satellites took an age to roll out. Id say up until mid 90's Sky was very rare. it was after minidishes that came out in 99 that it really took off.

someone of his ( only a few years younger than me ) generation saying it is not the same at all as someone saying it now. Its pretty much on par saying "I didn't have a mobile phone as a kid",

 

[WesthoughtonJohn]

30 years? You're not including Thatcher who sold off all our stuff?

True - it's about as far back as I could remember to be honest

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

Technically 84 for Sky TV as it used to be on cable in very limited areas of the country but Satellites took an age to roll out. Id say up until mid 90's Sky was very rare. it was after minidishes that came out in 99 that it really took off.

someone of his ( only a few years younger than me ) generation saying it is not the same at all as someone saying it now. Its pretty much on par saying "I didn't have a mobile phone as a kid",

True.

We had old school sky in the mid 90s and I remember you had to manually type in the channel numbers which were completely arbitrary. Chanel 8637483 to watch the Simpsons or 9484737283 to tune into the Christian shopping channel or whatever. And it was usually pretty fuzzy. But maybe that’s just my memory as a kid at the time.

Sky Digital with the menus and EPG stuff was a game changer. Was like living in the Jetsons when that came out!

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Technically 84 for Sky TV as it used to be on cable in very limited areas of the country but Satellites took an age to roll out. Id say up until mid 90's Sky was very rare. it was after minidishes that came out in 99 that it really took off.

someone of his ( only a few years younger than me ) generation saying it is not the same at all as someone saying it now. Its pretty much on par saying "I didn't have a mobile phone as a kid",

I’d assumed that his parents didn’t allow him to buy Sky TV the company, not a subscription.

 

[bluenova]

Technically 84 for Sky TV as it used to be on cable in very limited areas of the country but Satellites took an age to roll out. Id say up until mid 90's Sky was very rare. it was after minidishes that came out in 99 that it really took off.

someone of his ( only a few years younger than me ) generation saying it is not the same at all as someone saying it now. Its pretty much on par saying "I didn't have a mobile phone as a kid",

They had 1m households subscribing in 1990, and hit 4m by 1994, so a lot more common than mobiles at that time.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Technically 84 for Sky TV as it used to be on cable in very limited areas of the country but Satellites took an age to roll out. Id say up until mid 90's Sky was very rare. it was after minidishes that came out in 99 that it really took off.

someone of his ( only a few years younger than me ) generation saying it is not the same at all as someone saying it now. Its pretty much on par saying "I didn't have a mobile phone as a kid",

yes, not widespread back then. Just not a sign of hardship!

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

yes, not widespread back then. Just not a sign of hardship!

No European football to watch either, for some reason…

 

[grunge]

They had 1m households subscribing in 1990, and hit 4m by 1994, so a lot more common than mobiles at that time.

1m mobile phone sub's in the UK in 1990, up to 16% of all households having one in 95.

Either way. the more he speaks the more he shows he's totally disconnected from reality. and this is comming from someone who actually quite likes Sunak. I dont agree with a lot of his policies etc but he did seem as though he had some charisma at least.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

 

[bluenova]

1m mobile phone sub's in the UK in 1990, up to 16% of all households having one in 95.

Either way. the more he speaks the more he shows he's totally disconnected from reality. and this is comming from someone who actually quite likes Sunak. I dont agree with a lot of his policies etc but he did seem as though he had some charisma at least.

I think it's a bit different as mobile subs were primarily a business thing first. Then rich people and drug dealers. I remember seeing Peter Hook with one when he was with Caroline Aherne, so post 1993, and it stood out then as something odd. At that point, I knew lots of fairly normal people who'd got Sky.

I know what you mean about Sunak though. He has the confidence of an ex-public school boy who has done very, very well. But he wasn't considered to have done particularly well when competing with Truss for the leadership, and I think a lot of his appeal was that he was the guy in place when the free money was coming. Politics is easy when you've given half the country tens of thousands of pounds each. As soon as he's not in control of the narrative, he clearly struggles.

I said the other day that Teresa May managed to be an MP for 20 years, and a senior minister for over half a decade, but it was only when she started campaigning at an election as the face of the Tories, that people realised just how much of an oddball she was.