General Election - 4th July 2024

[SkyBlueFlux]

If labour do half as much damage as the tories have then we may as well turn off the fucking lights.

I think these charts from the FT’s endorsement article get to the heart of it. And if people are asking what a measurable improvement by Labour would look like, a start would be turning around this anaemic performance since the start of the Tory government on key economic measures. How anybody can look at images like this and defend the Conservative’s economic record bewilders me. The FT are supporting Labour this time round, and I think they would be the first to know if that was going to lead to some kind of unmitigated disaster.

If the trend by the end of the next Parliament is somewhere between where we are now and the pre-GFC trend, then that would be a measurable move in the right direction.

Average earnings indexed



GDP per head indexed

 

[inchy14]

Even so, doing half the damage as the Tories would be better than letting the Tories do the full damage.

Exactly. All this they’ll cause damage is bollocks when you consider the damage this current bunch of crooks have done.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

They can’t close the House of Lords now can they.

Lord Bellingham of Madrid, arise.

 

[1894southstander]

They can’t close the House of Lords now can they.

Lord Bellingham of Madrid, arise.

Wonder who the youngest Sir is? Could Bellingham break that record

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

Wonder who the youngest Sir is? Could Bellingham break that record

There’s that lass in her 20s Johnson put in the House of Lords isn’t there.

Probs as shush money for making her have an abortion or something.

 

[TinFoilHat]

Wonder who the youngest Sir is? Could Bellingham break that record

Boris Johnson's daughter currently.

Could see Starmer doing it as a Tony Blair type popularity promotion.

 

[meltonblue]

My sons 19 and the amount of election leaflets he’s getting through the post is crazy, far more than me!

Had a really weird one from the conservatives today that was written from the perspective of him as an older person writing to his younger self. It’s the oddest written thing I’ve seen in a long while and their message is so confusing. They really are lost.

 

[metalblue]

It's simple. Check Labour's achievements against 1997 pledges. Now check current promises, then watch it happen.

Some of them are a bit vague but let’s check back on this in 5 years.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

There’s that lass in her 20s Johnson put in the House of Lords isn’t there.

Probs as shush money for making her have an abortion or something.

There's a SNP appointment who's younger, I think.

EDIT: Plaid not SNP, youngest female

Youngest male was a Conservative spad that Johnson (obvs) installed while cronying.

 

[metalblue]

I'd like to think,and expect,we will see improvements across the board this term, maybe not huge ones but a bit more than just arresting the downward trend.

Starmer has been realistic in what is possible given the current finances. Reading between the lines public services are going to continue to struggle with lack of resources, improvements maybe seen in some limited pockets but, I suspect, at the detriment of other parts of the system.

Term 1 - get public finances on better footing
Term 2 - improve public services.

It’s not sexy but it’s sensible. It won’t endear him to the left of the party mind who are probably hoping he is currently lying.

 

[kaz7]

I am getting excited , even if i am wracked with pain , worse than usual even , i am dragging myself to the polling station , strip me of pips i dont care , sunak is going to do it if he gets in anyway ( give me it back on glorious friday please keir )

 

[metalblue]

My sons 19 and the amount of election leaflets he’s getting through the post is crazy, far more than me!

Had a really weird one from the conservatives today that was written from the perspective of him as an older person writing to his younger self. It’s the oddest written thing I’ve seen in a long while and their message is so confusing. They really are lost.

Our local Labour candidate wrote what can best be described as a begging letter to me saying please vote for me, I’m not a Tory. No actual policies for the constituency. Was very strange, noeffort.com

But normally no candidate sends owt to me but this time I’ve had all of them send me something. Except the greens. My gran used to tell them all (when they door knocked) to send her a car so she could get to the voting booth. Whoever got their first got her vote. It was a strategy.

 

[threespires]

Our local Labour candidate wrote what can best be described as a begging letter to me saying please vote for me, I’m not a Tory. No actual policies for the constituency. Was very strange, noeffort.com

But normally no candidate sends owt to me but this time I’ve had all of them send me something. Except the greens. My gran used to tell them all (when they door knocked) to send her a car so she could get to the voting booth. Whoever got their first got her vote. It was a strategy.

I was once on the rota for taking little old ladies to vote. A couple of them took great delight, when I dropped them back, in pointing out that they'd actually "voted for the other lot" and off they went cackling happily to themselves.

 

[1894southstander]

I have not had anything sent through to myself. The want to be Labour MP did turn up at the door the other day though

 

[metalblue]

I was once on the rota for taking little old ladies to vote. A couple of them took great delight, when I dropped them back, in pointing out that they'd actually "voted for the other lot" and off they went cackling happily to themselves.

Brutal.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

I’m disappointed that due to boundary changes our new Labour candidate is a Momentum fruitcake.

I’ll be voting Lib Dem.

Not that it matters, safest of safe Labour constituency.

 

[BTH]

Enjoy your victory - genuinely pleased for you. I maintain it’s a fucking unmitigated disaster for the country. Back in the politics thread in a couple of years time.

Just out of interest, how would you describe the last 14 years?

 

[Postman Pep]

I’m disappointed that due to boundary changes our new Labour candidate is a Momentum fruitcake.

I’ll be voting Lib Dem.

Not that it matters, safest of safe Labour constituency.

Genuinely intrigued as to the identity of this 'hard left nutter' who has slipped through the net.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

Genuinely intrigued as to the identity of this 'hard left nutter' who has slipped through the net.

Do us both a favour and please put me on ignore, you do my fucking head in.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

I am getting excited , even if i am wracked with pain , worse than usual even , i am dragging myself to the polling station , strip me of pips i dont care , sunak is going to do it if he gets in anyway ( give me it back on glorious friday please keir )

Why didn't you just do a postal vote?