Most of the footage-certainly BWV will be sub-judice.Appreciate it's difficult to keep ahead of the story in the era of social media but I have to say GMPs handling of it seems really sloppy so far.
Their initial statement was poor as it seemed to say those actions were ok because an officers nose had been broken. Even if that's the case, the action against the two people who had been apprehended was not ok.
They also implied that the officers were behaving like that because there was a danger their firearms could be taken. Again, if that's the case, then we're essentially saying armed officers can do whatever they want.
They then failed to suspend the officer despite having seen the footage, but now it's been shared so much they've changed their mind. It seems an extremely reactive way to behave.
GMP need to make the full story public as soon as is legally possible if they genuinely think they have no case to answer. There's bodycam footage, camera phone footage and it happened in an airport where CCTV is everywhere. It shouldn't be difficult to dispel or corroborate anyone's version of events. The longer they leave it the worst they'll look and it will also create a vacuum which people on social media will be all too quick to fill as per their own preexisting agendas and prejudices. We don't want protests and unrest spilling over into the general population whilst we wait for the truth to emerge.
I watched the video just before going to bed. And I didn’t have a sleepless night worrying about that guy. In the same way he won't give a shit about the WPC's broken nose.
Appreciate it's difficult to keep ahead of the story in the era of social media but I have to say GMPs handling of it seems really sloppy so far.
Their initial statement was poor as it seemed to say those actions were ok because an officers nose had been broken. Even if that's the case, the action against the two people who had been apprehended was not ok.
They also implied that the officers were behaving like that because there was a danger their firearms could be taken. Again, if that's the case, then we're essentially saying armed officers can do whatever they want.
They then failed to suspend the officer despite having seen the footage, but now it's been shared so much they've changed their mind. It seems an extremely reactive way to behave.
GMP need to make the full story public as soon as is legally possible if they genuinely think they have no case to answer. There's bodycam footage, camera phone footage and it happened in an airport where CCTV is everywhere. It shouldn't be difficult to dispel or corroborate anyone's version of events. The longer they leave it the worst they'll look and it will also create a vacuum which people on social media will be all too quick to fill as per their own preexisting agendas and prejudices. We don't want protests and unrest spilling over into the general population whilst we wait for the truth to emerge.
You literally don't know what happened. And you're also extremely naive if you think decent/law abiding people don't end up on the receiving end of police violence. Maybe you don't see it happening or know people who it's happened to because because of the demographic you belong to. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen though.
You've missed the bit where I condemn the police officer and disagree with what he did.
He may have been a scumbag who broke the nose of a WPC. So it's hard to feel sorry for him whilst also agreeing you can't dish out your own justice.
Maybe i wasn't clear. I fully disagree with the Police officers rash actions and he should be punished. Probably phrasing it as he deserved what he got was incorrect.
They are opportunists, jumping on something to try and increase tension. Even with a small incident they would have been outside ‘protesting’I wonder - do the group outside Rochdale nick have anything to do with that fucker Galloway?
(said in jest because of course his group will be pushing their own line)
nope the scumbag is the guy that broke the nose of a woman. Get your priorities sorted mateThe scumbag is the piece of shit copper. Whatever crimes the guy who was badly assaulted will be investigated.
he wasn't in handcuffs. he was prone with his left arm underneath him.Difficult to see how men laying prone on the floor in handcuffs could have taken the officers weapons. The Officer isn't suspended he is taken off front line duties - the furore today will lead to suspension ( as I type I hear on SKY that has now happened - there is no defence ) I assume that the officer had training so such a reaction would indicate he should no longer be a firearms officer IF he remains a Police Officer.
In any event when the lad on the deck consults a learned friend GMP will be on the hook for big damages
Difficult to see how men laying prone on the floor in handcuffs could have taken the officers weapons. The Officer isn't suspended he is taken off front line duties - the furore today will lead to suspension ( as I type I hear on SKY that has now happened - there is no defence ) I assume that the officer had training so such a reaction would indicate he should no longer be a firearms officer IF he remains a Police Officer.
In any event when the lad on the deck consults a learned friend GMP will be on the hook for big damages
Let’s just ignore the group who were attacking the police then?Groups in the UK have been watching for their own Rodney King moment. Unfortunately, due to a total loss of self discipline a stupid man has given it to them. I think the next few weeks will be difficult.
Spot on.hmmm let me see. A wanted man gets off a plane so the police try to make an arrest and pins him against a wall. His mates then square up to the officers allowing the wanted to to get free and start attacking the police officers breaking the nose of one of them. The wanted dman then gets tasered and twatted in the face for being a dick.
Do I have that right?
And please do fuck off with the decent/law abiding shit, it's a fact that I wouldn't and pretty much most of the UK population wouldn't get into this position
We are fucked - funnily enough never been to an airport and assaulted a female police officer and broken her nose. I am more worried about her.
So, again, women that take a job for the sake of equality, that has potential violence involved, should do what, then? Step aside when violence breaks out?
Or should the perp avoid being violent when there's a female trying to arrest him along with other males?
I don't understand the thinking.
Why are you assuming that the guy getting his head stamped on is the person who broke the police officers nose?
hmmm let me see. A wanted man gets off a plane so the police try to make an arrest and pins him against a wall. His mates then square up to the officers allowing the wanted to to get free and start attacking the police officers breaking the nose of one of them. The wanted dman then gets tasered and twatted in the face for being a dick.
Do I have that right?
And please do fuck off with the decent/law abiding shit, it's a fact that I wouldn't and pretty much most of the UK population wouldn't get into this position
It’s all a mish-mash of different clips, so a proper timeline isn’t easy to identify as yet.of note-is it the same officer who uses his spray captured on another video.
not sure where that sits in the timeline.
Not just kicking someone in the head with Full force, Then actually stamping on his head for good measure.While there is no justification for kicking someone in the head when they are prone and the copper will get whats coming to them, it has somewhat been glossed over that the offender had already assaulted 2 people before this point so shouldnt be talked of as some kind of saint.
Read it again, if they are from this country you take their passports off them so they can never travel by air again. If they are from another country stick them in a plane and deny entry back in here.If you take their passports off them there is no point in putting them on a plane coz wherever it lands they will be denied entry and sent back to Manchester.